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::Try this one (for some reason it frequently takes a couple of tries): https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/chile/index.html --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 18:32, 15 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::Try this one (for some reason it frequently takes a couple of tries): https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/chile/index.html --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 18:32, 15 April 2007 (EDT)
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::OK.  It's agood link and has some good information.  It says of the Church Report,
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::*'' a report that still stands as a comprehensive analysis of CIA actions ''
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::so we have no reason to question or second guess the Church Reoprt, unless a qualified source can be produced to do otherwise.  This docucment says,
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::*'' We find no information—nor did the Church Committee—that CIA or the Intelligence Community was involved in the death of Chilean President Salvador Allende.''
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::which I beleive has now been handled properly in the article.  This source further states,
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::*''CIA actively supported the military Junta after the overthrow of Allende '''but did not assist Pinochet to assume the Presidency''''';
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::hence, we have now '''two''' problems with this statement from the mainspace,
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::*''Within hours Chile's elected president, Salvador Allende, lay dead (this report concludes that he committed suicide), and a military junta presided by General Augusto Pinochet took power."[2] Many in the US vigorously protested both the CIA's alleged involvement in the coup, and the appalling human rights violations that followed, including the murder of Victor Jara, a popular songwriter and musician and ardent supporter of Allende. Jara was one of several thousand Chileans who were taken into custody by Pinochet's forces the day after the coup. He was tortured for several days, then shot to death.[3] ''
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::'''Problem 1''': There has been no source document presented to make the claim Pinochet (a) took part in planning, (b) took part in the execution of the coup.  Thus, '''Pinochet's name can not be used in any regard discussing this subject'''.
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::'''Problem 2''': For the same reason, the Report says "CIA actively supported the military Junta '''''after''''' the overthrow of Allende but '''''did not assist''''' Pinochet to assume the Presidency'', you must separate the claims made in this statement, ''"Many in the US '''''vigorously protested both the CIA's alleged involvement''''' ... and the appalling human rights violations ...including ....thousands ....'''''taken into custody by Pinochet's forces'''''. 
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::These statements are directly contradictory.  I would suggest removing Pinochet's name from both references, or constructing a better timeline, or making a more specific identification as to who "Many in the US" is, or a combination of all three.  But what exists now simply is not acceptable.  In the meantime, I will do a revwersion and leave the page unliocjked so you can work on it.  Thank you.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:41, 15 April 2007 (EDT)
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