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In the article, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un are listed as communist leaders. However, this is too simplistic / incorrect. I suppose one could say that Kim Il Sung was originally a communist, but certainly Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un are not. They instead followed / follow the Juche ideology, which according to the North Korean Government from [http://www.korea-dpr.com/juche_ideology.html this webpage] is an ideology that focuses on self reliance and independence from others. Since 2009, references to communism have been removed from the North Korean constitution, per [http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/28/idUSSEO253213 this article]. Furthermore, the statues of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin were removed from Pyongyang in 2012 per [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9608048/Lenin-and-Karl-Marx-statues-removed-from-North-Koreas-Kim-Il-sung-Square.html this article]. Therefore, it would be incorrect to list them as communists, because they follow the Juche ideology, which is essentially a right wing nationalist ideology featuring the socialist principal of a command economy and the ownership of all the means of production by the State.

In the article, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un are listed as communist leaders. However, this is too simplistic / incorrect. I suppose one could say that Kim Il Sung was originally a communist, but certainly Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un are not. They instead followed / follow the Juche ideology, which according to the North Korean Government from [http://www.korea-dpr.com/juche_ideology.html this webpage] is an ideology that focuses on self reliance and independence from others. Since 2009, references to communism have been removed from the North Korean constitution, per [http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/28/idUSSEO253213 this article]. Furthermore, the statues of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin were removed from Pyongyang in 2012 per [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9608048/Lenin-and-Karl-Marx-statues-removed-from-North-Koreas-Kim-Il-sung-Square.html this article]. Therefore, it would be incorrect to list them as communists, because they follow the Juche ideology, which is essentially a right wing nationalist ideology featuring the socialist principal of a command economy and the ownership of all the means of production by the State.

[[User:Jansky|Jansky]] 09:44, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

[[User:Jansky|Jansky]] 09:44, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

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=== re: It Is Questionable That Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un Are Communists ===

3 things:

3 things:

Asians are known for copying many things in the West. And the Korean communists leaders have been overweight, atheist slobs.  And medical science indicates that being overweight/obese causes brain impairment.  

Asians are known for copying many things in the West. And the Korean communists leaders have been overweight, atheist slobs.  And medical science indicates that being overweight/obese causes brain impairment.  

3.  So two questions:

3.  So a few questions:

A. How do we really know that Juche ideology is substantially different from Marxist-Leninism in theory?

A. How do we really know that Juche ideology is substantially different from Marxist-Leninism in theory?

B. Why is Juche ideology substantially different that Marxist-Leninism in actual practice?  For example, do people own their own homes in North Korea? To what degree can they keep the labors of their work and give it to their descendants? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 12:42, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

B. Why is Juche ideology substantially different that Marxist-Leninism in actual practice?  For example, do people own their own homes in North Korea? To what degree can they keep the labors of their work and give it to their descendants? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 12:42, 16 August 2014 (EDT)