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→It Is Questionable That Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un Are Communists
In the article, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un are listed as communist leaders. However, this is too simplistic / incorrect. I suppose one could say that Kim Il Sung was originally a communist, but certainly Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un are not. They instead followed / follow the Juche ideology, which according to the North Korean Government from [http://www.korea-dpr.com/juche_ideology.html this webpage] is an ideology that focuses on self reliance and independence from others. Since 2009, references to communism have been removed from the North Korean constitution, per [http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/28/idUSSEO253213 this article]. Furthermore, the statues of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin were removed from Pyongyang in 2012 per [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9608048/Lenin-and-Karl-Marx-statues-removed-from-North-Koreas-Kim-Il-sung-Square.html this article]. Therefore, it would be incorrect to list them as communists, because they follow the Juche ideology, which is essentially a right wing nationalist ideology featuring the socialist principal of a command economy and the ownership of all the means of production by the State.
In the article, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, and Kim Jong Un are listed as communist leaders. However, this is too simplistic / incorrect. I suppose one could say that Kim Il Sung was originally a communist, but certainly Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un are not. They instead followed / follow the Juche ideology, which according to the North Korean Government from [http://www.korea-dpr.com/juche_ideology.html this webpage] is an ideology that focuses on self reliance and independence from others. Since 2009, references to communism have been removed from the North Korean constitution, per [http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/28/idUSSEO253213 this article]. Furthermore, the statues of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin were removed from Pyongyang in 2012 per [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9608048/Lenin-and-Karl-Marx-statues-removed-from-North-Koreas-Kim-Il-sung-Square.html this article]. Therefore, it would be incorrect to list them as communists, because they follow the Juche ideology, which is essentially a right wing nationalist ideology featuring the socialist principal of a command economy and the ownership of all the means of production by the State.
[[User:Jansky|Jansky]] 09:44, 16 August 2014 (EDT)
=== re:
3 things:
[[User:Jansky|Jansky]] 09:44, 16 August 2014 (EDT)
1. According to Kim Jong-il:
"The revolutionary theory of Kimilsungism is a revolutionary theory which has provided solutions to problems arising in the revolutionary practice in a new age different from the era that gave rise to Marxism–Leninism. On the basis of Juche (idea), the leader gave a profound explanation of the theories, strategies and tactics of national liberation, class emancipation and human liberations in our era. Thus, it can be said that the revolutionary theory of Kimilsungism is a perfect revolutionary theory of Communism in the era of Juche."
So Juche is a form of communism. And communism is part of the left part of the political spectrum. So your claim about it being right wing is incorrect.
2. As far as Juche ideology being very different that Marxist-Leninism, I do know that atheists/leftists commonly lie so I am a little skeptical that Juche ideology is very different. Juche ideology may have been created by a bunch of intellectual lazy, obese, atheist Asian copycats. See: [[Atheism and deception]]
Asians are known for copying many things in the West. And the Korean communists leaders have been overweight, atheist slobs. And medical science indicates that being overweight/obese causes brain impairment.
3. So two questions:
A. How do we really know that Juche ideology is substantially different from Marxist-Leninism in theory?
B. Why is Juche ideology substantially different that Marxist-Leninism in actual practice? For example, do people own their own homes in North Korea? To what degree can they keep the labors of their work and give it to their descendants? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 12:42, 16 August 2014 (EDT)