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:::TK, I watched the news back then and remember quite clearly that from the beginning, Pinochet was named as the man in charge. Not only a Google search, but a visit to a library confirms this.  (Someone who thinks the average person could waste time "online" in 1973 may find this hard to grasp, but a traditional library is this big building filled with the fascinating things called "books" and bound periodicals, some of them actually written BEFORE 1990! You do research there by using an online or offline card catalogue, finding the books or bound periodicals on the shelves, and opening them, and consulting their index. The writing in these "books" and "magazines" can't be edited or seamlessly altered once they're published, which I'm sure would be frustrating to you and RobS, but is a rather nice feature for those of us who are actually interested in what was being said at the time historical events were unfolding.) --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 11:33, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::TK, I watched the news back then and remember quite clearly that from the beginning, Pinochet was named as the man in charge. Not only a Google search, but a visit to a library confirms this.  (Someone who thinks the average person could waste time "online" in 1973 may find this hard to grasp, but a traditional library is this big building filled with the fascinating things called "books" and bound periodicals, some of them actually written BEFORE 1990! You do research there by using an online or offline card catalogue, finding the books or bound periodicals on the shelves, and opening them, and consulting their index. The writing in these "books" and "magazines" can't be edited or seamlessly altered once they're published, which I'm sure would be frustrating to you and RobS, but is a rather nice feature for those of us who are actually interested in what was being said at the time historical events were unfolding.) --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 11:33, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:PF, you have found some excellent primary sources; problem is (a) the sources say something completely different from what you cite them as saying; (b) you cite them as as saying things they do not say.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:12, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:PF, you have found some excellent primary sources; problem is (a) the sources say something completely different from what you cite them as saying; (b) you cite them as as saying things they do not say.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 12:12, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
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::::Books confirm what I've said, whether it's the actual date the Weimar Republic ended, or the question of whether or not Pinochet was in charge in the days after 9/11/73. I've not seen anyone -- other than you -- question whether or not Pinochet was in charge of Chile after the coup, or offering any names in lieu of Pinochet's as the Man In Charge even in those first few weeks, and there is nothing to indicate the bloodbath that took place then was uncharacteristic of Pinochet. He continued ordering the torture and murder of dissidents for years afterwards. --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 12:23, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
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