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*The Epistle of Jude
 
*The Epistle of Jude
 
*The Apocalypse of John (also known as the Book of Revelation)
 
*The Apocalypse of John (also known as the Book of Revelation)
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These 14 books since the 16th century are today called ''deuterocanonical'', as distinct from the ''protocanonical'' books universally accepted without debate from the 1st century of the church. For the Catholic Church, a formal proclamation was made at the [[Council of Trent]], that the Bible they had been using and the books it contained "with all their parts" were correct, in reaction to the [[Protestant Reformation]]'s rejection of 7 of the deuterocanonical works as [[apocrypha]], together with those parts of 2 other canonical books which had been long debated (parts of Esther and Daniel). However, [[1 Esdras]], [[2 Esdras]] and [[Prayer of Manasseh]] were not included in the canon of the Catholic Bible defined by the Council of Trent, although they were part of the Vulgate, but they were placed in an appendix to the definitive [[Clementine Vulgate]], "''lest they be lost altogether''". Martin Luther had initially placed 4 of the New Testament deuterocanonical books in an appendix after the New Testament of his German Bible, judging them to be unscriptural and hostile to the gospel of Christ: Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation. When Protestant leaders approached the leaders of the separated [[Orthodox Church]] with their revised canon of 66 books, they were rebuffed. Orthodoxy has continued to use the Septuagint as passed down from the time of the apostles of the ancient Church in the 1st century. The 1611 [[King James Bible]], put together after the [[Church of England]] had broken away from the Catholic Church under [[Henry VIII]], included the 7 Old Testament deuterocanonical books and the deuterocanonical parts of the 2 other canonical books, but removed them from the Old Testament and placed them in a separate section, and the Church of England continued to use the deuterocanonicals in the liturgy until forbidden by the [[Long Parliament]] in 1644.  By the 1800s [[Protestant]] Bibles began to omit some of the deuterocanonical books altogether as ''The Apocrypha'', while retaining the other deuterocanonicals, Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude and Revelation. A common Protestant teaching is that the Apocrypha were never part of the Bible, but were added to the Bible by the Antichrist Catholic Popes at the Council of Trent, and that they contain doctrines of the Devil.<ref>[http://www.temcat.com/L-9-History/AntichristAndReformation.pdf The Antichrist and the Protestant Reformation, by Steve Wohlberg] (AntichristAndReformation.pdf)<br/>[http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/apocryph.htm Why the Apocrypha Isn't in the Bible.] (jesus-is-lord.com)<br/>[http://carm.org/errors-apocrypha Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry: Errors in the Apocrypha, by Matt Slick] (carm.org)<br/>[http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/rcc16-apocrypha.htm False Religions: Roman Catholicism. The Apocrypha Exposed!] (jesus-is-savior.com)</ref><blockquote>"''Yes, Catholicism is straight out of the pits of hell, but so is Lutheranism!''" (The Truth About Martin Luther, Dr. Max D. Younce, Th.D.<ref>[http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Lutherans/truth_about_martin_luther.htm The truth about Martin Luther. Dr. Max D. Younce, Th.D.)] (jesus-is-savior.com)</ref>)</blockquote>
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These 14 books since the 16th century are today called ''deuterocanonical'', as distinct from the ''protocanonical'' books universally accepted without debate from the 1st century of the church. For the Catholic Church, a formal proclamation was made at the [[Council of Trent]], that the Bible they had been using and the books it contained "with all their parts" were correct, in reaction to the [[Protestant Reformation]]'s rejection of 7 of the deuterocanonical works as [[apocrypha]], together with those parts of 2 other canonical books which had been long debated (parts of Esther and Daniel). However, [[1 Esdras]], [[2 Esdras]] and [[Prayer of Manasseh]] were not included in the canon of the Catholic Bible defined by the Council of Trent, although they were part of the Vulgate, but they were placed in an appendix to the definitive [[Clementine Vulgate]], "''lest they be lost altogether''". Martin Luther had initially placed 4 of the New Testament deuterocanonical books in an appendix after the New Testament of his German Bible, judging them to be unscriptural and hostile to the gospel of Christ: Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation. When Protestant leaders approached the leaders of the separated [[Orthodox Church]] with their revised canon of 66 books, they were rebuffed. Orthodoxy has continued to use the Septuagint as passed down from the time of the apostles of the ancient Church in the 1st century. The 1611 [[King James Bible]], put together after the [[Church of England]] had broken away from the Catholic Church under [[Henry VIII]], included the 7 Old Testament deuterocanonical books and the deuterocanonical parts of the 2 other canonical books, but removed them from the Old Testament and placed them in a separate section, and the Church of England continued to use the deuterocanonicals in the liturgy until forbidden by the [[Long Parliament]] in 1644.  By the 1800s [[Protestant]] Bibles began to omit some of the deuterocanonical books altogether as ''The Apocrypha'', while retaining the other deuterocanonicals, Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude and Revelation. A common Protestant teaching is that the Apocrypha were never part of the Bible, but were added to the Bible by the Antichrist Catholic Popes at the Council of Trent, and that they contain doctrines of the Devil.<ref>[http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/haldane_booksotnt.html#two The Books of the Old and New Testaments Canonical and Inspired; with remarks on the Apocrypha, by Robert Haldane, Esq. of Scotland. Boston: published by the American Doctinal Tract Society, Perkins and Marvin, agents. 1840]<br/>[http://www.temcat.com/L-9-History/AntichristAndReformation.pdf The Antichrist and the Protestant Reformation, by Steve Wohlberg] (AntichristAndReformation.pdf)<br/>[http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/apocryph.htm Why the Apocrypha Isn't in the Bible.] (jesus-is-lord.com)<br/>[http://carm.org/errors-apocrypha Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry: Errors in the Apocrypha, by Matt Slick] (carm.org)<br/>[http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/rcc16-apocrypha.htm False Religions: Roman Catholicism. The Apocrypha Exposed!] (jesus-is-savior.com)</ref><blockquote>"''Yes, Catholicism is straight out of the pits of hell, but so is Lutheranism!''" (The Truth About Martin Luther, Dr. Max D. Younce, Th.D.<ref>[http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Lutherans/truth_about_martin_luther.htm The truth about Martin Luther. Dr. Max D. Younce, Th.D.)] (jesus-is-savior.com)</ref>)</blockquote>
    
Orthodox Christians do not usually speak of "the canon of Scripture" but do think of the writings as "canonical", the difference being that the canonical writings are judged as being faithful to the dogma of the Church.  The Orthodox Church has never defined the Old Testament canon, but they have been using the same one since the early times of the Church. The Orthodox Old Testament canonical books are these:
 
Orthodox Christians do not usually speak of "the canon of Scripture" but do think of the writings as "canonical", the difference being that the canonical writings are judged as being faithful to the dogma of the Church.  The Orthodox Church has never defined the Old Testament canon, but they have been using the same one since the early times of the Church. The Orthodox Old Testament canonical books are these:
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