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Talk:Arguments for the existence of God (view source)
Revision as of 21:17, February 13, 2015
, 21:17, February 13, 2015→Descartes's so-called ontological argument: new section
Unless I am misunderstanding some premises of the Kalam argument, it doesn't seem to actually argue the existence of any god whatsoever. Rather, it argues that the universe has a cause. Now, this can certainly be extended to argue that there exists a god, but an additional premise must be added that "a god is defined as the creator of the universe". [[User:Dekarrin|Dekarrin]] 19:09, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
Unless I am misunderstanding some premises of the Kalam argument, it doesn't seem to actually argue the existence of any god whatsoever. Rather, it argues that the universe has a cause. Now, this can certainly be extended to argue that there exists a god, but an additional premise must be added that "a god is defined as the creator of the universe". [[User:Dekarrin|Dekarrin]] 19:09, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
== Descartes's so-called ontological argument ==
The text under this heading is mis-directed. The argument from the third meditation is summarized (not altogether clearly), but this is not Descartes's ontological argument. That appears in the fifth meditation, and is summarized as follows:
::: God possesses every perfection.
::: Existence is a perfection.
::: Therefore, God possesses existence, i.e. exists.
This argument is distinct from the argument in the third meditation. [[User:Phiwum|Phiwum]] 16:17, 13 February 2015 (EST)