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| | :OK, I thought about this some more. I think the guideline should be that the infobox has ''extremely concise'' material. In many cases we don't have anything more to add to things in the infobox—"X was discovered by Y in year Z". In many other cases there are interesting things to say about it, and that should go in the main body. For example, the discovery of Radium is a fascinating topic, given that this discovery was the gateway to atomic physics. (I just looked; the Radium article just has the infobox. It needs a lot more.) What we say in the infobox of course has to be consistent with the expanded material in the main article. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:10, 28 December 2015 (EST) | | :OK, I thought about this some more. I think the guideline should be that the infobox has ''extremely concise'' material. In many cases we don't have anything more to add to things in the infobox—"X was discovered by Y in year Z". In many other cases there are interesting things to say about it, and that should go in the main body. For example, the discovery of Radium is a fascinating topic, given that this discovery was the gateway to atomic physics. (I just looked; the Radium article just has the infobox. It needs a lot more.) What we say in the infobox of course has to be consistent with the expanded material in the main article. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:10, 28 December 2015 (EST) |
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| − | That makes some sense, but here's my problem with that: Perhaps I should not compare this site to wikipedia, but it's hard not to. Take Xenon for example. It's perhaps a minor element, right? Therefore you're thinking I shouldn't write any article about it. But if you look at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon) You see a huge article--much larger that the side table, which is also much larger that ours. If I write something, even if it does restate some info, at least it's a foundation for others to add to. Maybe they never will, so I shouldn't though--I don't know. | + | That makes some sense, but here's my problem with that: Perhaps I should not compare this site to wikipedia, but it's hard not to. Take Xenon for example. It's perhaps a minor element, right? Therefore you're thinking I shouldn't write any article about it. But if you look at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon) You see a huge article--much larger that the side table, which is also much larger that ours. If I write something, even if it does restate some info, at least it's a foundation for others to add to. Maybe they never will, so I shouldn't though--I don't know. ([[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) N.D.) |
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| | :My advice: ''Do not worry about the fact that our articles are less extensive and "encyclopedic" than those at Wikipedia.'' If you do, you will just give up in despair. WP's articles, especially in math and science, try to be "world class encyclopedic references". Just look at them! WP is the place to go if you really want to see a 38,600 character article on Quantum Chromodynamics. But if, like many people, you want to know what Hafnium is used for, a less grandiose article is the thing. The [[Tin]] article says some interesting things about it. That's the sort of thing you should aim for. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 20:40, 30 December 2015 (EST) | | :My advice: ''Do not worry about the fact that our articles are less extensive and "encyclopedic" than those at Wikipedia.'' If you do, you will just give up in despair. WP's articles, especially in math and science, try to be "world class encyclopedic references". Just look at them! WP is the place to go if you really want to see a 38,600 character article on Quantum Chromodynamics. But if, like many people, you want to know what Hafnium is used for, a less grandiose article is the thing. The [[Tin]] article says some interesting things about it. That's the sort of thing you should aim for. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 20:40, 30 December 2015 (EST) |
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| | + | I suppose that makes sense. I can be discouraging! I was hoping to provide a good amount of info, like WP, but not bore the reader to death with how this guys best friend's brother had a girlfriend who's mother stubbed her toe. I'll see what I can do, anyway. [[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 9:30, 31 December 2015 (EST) |
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| | :You're worrying too much about this. We're extremely informal about such things. Look around, and you'll see. Just put in citations in whatever format you think is natural. A web address or book title is usually just fine. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 20:40, 30 December 2015 (EST) | | :You're worrying too much about this. We're extremely informal about such things. Look around, and you'll see. Just put in citations in whatever format you think is natural. A web address or book title is usually just fine. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 20:40, 30 December 2015 (EST) |
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| | + | You are probably right, but I don't want to give the opposition reason to attack. One complaint about this site has been "Articles are either uncited or come from unscientific sources such as right-wing opinion articles and creation science websites, rather than anything even remotely peer reviewed" (https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/conservapedia.com#page-1). Having peer-reviewed articles is probably not very likely, since most of them are littlem ore that liberals sharing mindless liberal drivel. Some are actually good enough that if we really worked, we could use them, but this would take so much time, I don't think many people try. At the very least, however, I'd like to see plenty of citations from reasonably reputable sources. [[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 9:40, 31 December 2015 (EST) |
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| | I have gone ahead made the request [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Image_upload_requests&diff=1189979&oldid=1187802] | | I have gone ahead made the request [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Image_upload_requests&diff=1189979&oldid=1187802] |
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| | + | Thanks! I'm happy to try to help, but I'm not perfect. Feel free to improve anything you want! [[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 9:41, 31 December 2015 (EST) |
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| | The website traffic is measured via [[Quantcast]] which directly measures Dawkins' website traffic via embedded code on his website.<ref>[https://www.quantcast.com/measure/ Quantcast - Quantcast Measure]</ref>]] | | The website traffic is measured via [[Quantcast]] which directly measures Dawkins' website traffic via embedded code on his website.<ref>[https://www.quantcast.com/measure/ Quantcast - Quantcast Measure]</ref>]] |
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| | + | :Well, Thanks for you input, Conservative and SamHB. I have mixed feeling on large vs. small articles. It it better to find a small article, or no article? I guess that depends on opinion. I'm leaning in the direction of more smallish articles, but more than three or four sentences. I don't really care about search engines, I just want ti improve things here. Also, I do try to keep my contractions in order, but feel free to give a yell if I mess up, as you did already at least once. (I guess I'm an official criminal not, huh?). |
| | + | :oh, and @SamHB, I see what you mean. I like the welcoming committee--thanks...I think. |