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:Black enthusiasm powered the Bill Clinton and Obama victories -- and it's not there for Bernie. To extend the Vietnam-era analogy, he is today's McGovern, an idol of white liberals that other demographics just don't get. Another reason Bernie won't do nearly as well as current polling suggests is that he has literally nothing to say about terrorism, currently the No. 1 concern of general election voters. When he was asked about San Bernardino, he quickly changed the subject to income inequality. Of course, he could turn this around with a little tough talk, as both Bill Clinton and Obama did. But a big part of Bernie's appeal thus far has been that he is seen as too "principled" for that sort of thing. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 19:10, 19 January 2016 (EST)
 
:Black enthusiasm powered the Bill Clinton and Obama victories -- and it's not there for Bernie. To extend the Vietnam-era analogy, he is today's McGovern, an idol of white liberals that other demographics just don't get. Another reason Bernie won't do nearly as well as current polling suggests is that he has literally nothing to say about terrorism, currently the No. 1 concern of general election voters. When he was asked about San Bernardino, he quickly changed the subject to income inequality. Of course, he could turn this around with a little tough talk, as both Bill Clinton and Obama did. But a big part of Bernie's appeal thus far has been that he is seen as too "principled" for that sort of thing. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 19:10, 19 January 2016 (EST)
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::In September SurveyUSA took a poll and found head to head against Hillary, Trump would receive 25% of the black vote. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 22:33, 19 January 2016 (EST)
    
== A Trump-Cruz race? ==
 
== A Trump-Cruz race? ==
    
A campaign buzz for the last couple of days has been that Great Winnowing is finally in progress, and that the Republican field will soon be narrowed to Trump vs Cruz. This of course inevitable and predictable, but also seems a little early given that no one has actually caste any votes yet. [https://soopermexican.com/2016/01/14/wsj-poll-shows-trump-losing-to-ted-cruz-as-candidates-drop-out/ This poll] shows Cruz beating Trump by 8 points in a two-man race. Of course, it is possible Trump will bring people to the polls who don't ordinarily vote. Face with the choice of Cruz or Trump, the establishment is going with Trump.[https://soopermexican.com/2016/01/14/wsj-poll-shows-trump-losing-to-ted-cruz-as-candidates-drop-out/] It seems that they consistently prefer the candidate who is less threatening to the Democrats. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 21:20, 19 January 2016 (EST)
 
A campaign buzz for the last couple of days has been that Great Winnowing is finally in progress, and that the Republican field will soon be narrowed to Trump vs Cruz. This of course inevitable and predictable, but also seems a little early given that no one has actually caste any votes yet. [https://soopermexican.com/2016/01/14/wsj-poll-shows-trump-losing-to-ted-cruz-as-candidates-drop-out/ This poll] shows Cruz beating Trump by 8 points in a two-man race. Of course, it is possible Trump will bring people to the polls who don't ordinarily vote. Face with the choice of Cruz or Trump, the establishment is going with Trump.[https://soopermexican.com/2016/01/14/wsj-poll-shows-trump-losing-to-ted-cruz-as-candidates-drop-out/] It seems that they consistently prefer the candidate who is less threatening to the Democrats. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 21:20, 19 January 2016 (EST)
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