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==Lost records and the deception related to email correspondence with Richard Dawkins ==

==Lost records and the deception related to email correspondence with Richard Dawkins ==

The actual outcome of the vote is not clear. A report on the website of the [[American Association for the Advancement of Science]] (AAAS), quoting a publication by John Durant<ref>A Critical-Historical Perspective on the Argument about Evolution and Creation, John Durant, in "From Evolution to Creation:A European Perspective (Eds. Sven Anderson, Arthus Peacocke), Aarhus Univ. Press, Aarhus, Denmark</ref> lists 198 votes for the noes and 15 for the ayes.<ref>[http://www.aaas.org/spp/dser/03_Areas/evolution/perspectives/Durant.shtml AAAS Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion. Thematic Areas: Evolution: Perspectives]</ref> A Christian site reports that Paul Humber from the [[Creation Research Society]] in [[Australia]] contacted the Oxford Union and got a reply from a Jeremy Worth that 'The results [of the votes] are noted in a large minute book which spans several years. I'm sorry to say that the minute book in question was either lost or stolen many years ago, which is a great pity.'<ref>[http://www.tonguesrevisited.com/oxford_union_debate.htm The Huxley Memorial Debate: 'That the Doctrine of Creation is more valid than the Theory of Evolution'], 'Tongues Revisited' (Website of 'Tongues Revisited: A Third Way', by Renton  Maclachlan)</ref> It seems that the only reliable records for the debate outcome are copies in mp3 format of the debate tapes that can be downloaded from the [[Richard Dawkins]] website<ref>[http://richarddawkins.net/article,721,1986-Oxford-Union-Debate,Richard-Dawkins-John-Maynard-Smith Oxford Union Debate on Richard Dawkins Web]</ref>. The teller of the vote can be heard to announce the outcome as 198 for the noes and 115 or 150 (the voice of the teller is not clear) for the ayes.

The actual outcome of the vote is not clear. A report on the website of the [[American Association for the Advancement of Science]] (AAAS), quoting a publication by John Durant<ref>A Critical-Historical Perspective on the Argument about Evolution and Creation, John Durant, in "From Evolution to Creation:A European Perspective (Eds. Sven Anderson, Arthus Peacocke), Aarhus Univ. Press, Aarhus, Denmark</ref> lists 198 votes for the noes and 15 for the ayes.<ref>[http://www.aaas.org/spp/dser/03_Areas/evolution/perspectives/Durant.shtml AAAS Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion. Thematic Areas: Evolution: Perspectives]</ref> A Christian site reports that Paul Humber from the [[Creation Research Society]] in [[Australia]] contacted the Oxford Union and got a reply from a Jeremy Worth that 'The results [of the votes] are noted in a large minute book which spans several years. I'm sorry to say that the minute book in question was either lost or stolen many years ago, which is a great pity.'<ref>[http://www.tonguesrevisited.com/oxford_union_debate.htm The Huxley Memorial Debate: 'That the Doctrine of Creation is more valid than the Theory of Evolution'], 'Tongues Revisited' (Website of 'Tongues Revisited: A Third Way', by Renton  Maclachlan)</ref> It seems that the only reliable records for the debate outcome are copies in mp3 format of the debate tapes that can be downloaded from the [[Richard Dawkins]] website.<ref>[http://richarddawkins.net/article,721,1986-Oxford-Union-Debate,Richard-Dawkins-John-Maynard-Smith Oxford Union Debate on Richard Dawkins Web]</ref> The teller of the vote can be heard to announce the outcome as 198 for the noes and 115 or 150 (the voice of the teller is not clear) for the ayes.

=== Deception related to email correspondence with Richard Dawkins  ===

=== Deception related to email correspondence with Richard Dawkins  ===

Paul Humber notes there was a deception that occurred during email correspondence with Mr. Dawkins concerning the tally of vote counts that occurred for the Huxley Memorial Debate between creation scientists Professor A.E. Wilder-Smith and Professor Edgar Andrews and evolutionists Richard Dawkins and John Maynard Smith. <ref name="Debating Dawkins" /> Mr. Humber did not indicate whether Mr. Dawkins committed the deception or was merely duped by someone who provided an altered account.<ref name="Debating Dawkins" />

Paul Humber notes there was a deception that occurred during email correspondence with Mr. Dawkins concerning the tally of vote counts that occurred for the Huxley Memorial Debate between creation scientists Professor A.E. Wilder-Smith and Professor Edgar Andrews and evolutionists Richard Dawkins and John Maynard Smith.<ref name="Debating Dawkins" /> Mr. Humber did not indicate whether Mr. Dawkins committed the deception or was merely duped by someone who provided an altered account.<ref name="Debating Dawkins" />

== See also ==

== See also ==