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==Not Necessarily==

==Not Necessarily==

I understand killing yourself is an ultimatum sin. But what about people who suffer from depression? They have a chemical imbalance in their brain that causes them intense grief. They become so helpless they turn to suicide. Would God punish someone for dieing of cancer? Someone who commits suicide from depression is not thinking with a clear mind due to the depression. However, their are those who commit suicide out of cowardice. I believe those who commit suicide to escape punishment are the ones who go to hell. Not the ones who can't mentally control their emotions. -- [[User:GordonF|GordonF]] 24:05, 15 March 2009.

I understand killing yourself is an ultimatum sin. But what about people who suffer from depression? They have a chemical imbalance in their brain that causes them intense grief. They become so helpless they turn to suicide. Would God punish someone for dying of cancer? Someone who commits suicide from depression is not thinking with a clear mind due to the depression. However, there are those who commit suicide out of cowardice. I believe those who commit suicide to escape punishment are the ones who go to hell. Not the ones who can't mentally control their emotions. -- [[User:GordonF|GordonF]] 24:05, 15 March 2009.

:Just as we don't know who goes to Heaven or hell (that is for Jesus alone to decide), we don't know if all suicides end in hell. The mercy of God's love is not fathomable. All humans are not worthy of God's glory, yet he loves us no matter. I can see instance where a good holy person and mother loses a child to suicide. The Lord would never break her eternal heart saying she must separate her from her beloved offspring in Heaven, because of the evil one's bidding. For all we know, some suicides may end up in Purgatory. This being just a purification stop with a guarantee of Heaven eventually.--[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 02:10, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

:Just as we don't know who goes to Heaven or hell (that is for Jesus alone to decide), we don't know if all suicides end in hell. The mercy of God's love is not fathomable. All humans are not worthy of God's glory, yet he loves us no matter. I can see instance where a good holy person and mother loses a child to suicide. The Lord would never break her eternal heart saying she must separate her from her beloved offspring in Heaven, because of the evil one's bidding. For all we know, some suicides may end up in Purgatory. This being just a purification stop with a guarantee of Heaven eventually.--[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 02:10, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

==Yes, but not because they committed suicide==

==Yes, but not because they committed suicide==

I believe that all (they may be some very rare exceptions) people who commit suicide go to hell. Not because they comitted suicide, but because salvation can only be found through Jesus. I don't believe that anybody who is a true and proper Christian could end their own life. Therefore, they go to hell - not because of the sin, but because they are not a true Christian.--[[User:Newton|Newton]] 21:18, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

I believe that all (they may be some very rare exceptions) people who commit suicide go to hell. Not because they committed suicide, but because salvation can only be found through Jesus. I don't believe that anybody who is a true and proper Christian could end their own life. Therefore, they go to hell - not because of the sin, but because they are not a true Christian.--[[User:Newton|Newton]] 21:18, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

==In God's Mercy==

==In God's Mercy==