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:::::::When this occured, it was not a unanimous decision among psychiatrists.  Neither did dissenters in the psychiatric profession have their licenses pulled, or treated as quakes, who held to the  view homosexuality was a treatable disorder.  However, the profession does not recognize the diagnosis of homosexuality as a disease.  When homosexuality was "normalized", the doctor essentially told the patient to go home because he was cured now.  Nonetheless, a few still showed up the following week and said, "Doc, I don't feel cured, and I need help".  So doctors who dissented from the decision to "normalize" homosexuality, in order to avoid practicing quack medicine and get their licenses pulled, returned to the textbooks to find what the patients problem was.  And phobias, like homophobia, are still psychiatric diseases recognized by the APA and still on the books.  It was discovered in many cases, the patient didn't like himself, so the diagnosis of homophobia has virtually taken the place for many who prior to the 70s were diagnosed with the disease of homosexuality.  It's not hard to see how in actual fact, homophobia-bashing is simply another form of gay-bashing.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:44, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::::::When this occured, it was not a unanimous decision among psychiatrists.  Neither did dissenters in the psychiatric profession have their licenses pulled, or treated as quakes, who held to the  view homosexuality was a treatable disorder.  However, the profession does not recognize the diagnosis of homosexuality as a disease.  When homosexuality was "normalized", the doctor essentially told the patient to go home because he was cured now.  Nonetheless, a few still showed up the following week and said, "Doc, I don't feel cured, and I need help".  So doctors who dissented from the decision to "normalize" homosexuality, in order to avoid practicing quack medicine and get their licenses pulled, returned to the textbooks to find what the patients problem was.  And phobias, like homophobia, are still psychiatric diseases recognized by the APA and still on the books.  It was discovered in many cases, the patient didn't like himself, so the diagnosis of homophobia has virtually taken the place for many who prior to the 70s were diagnosed with the disease of homosexuality.  It's not hard to see how in actual fact, homophobia-bashing is simply another form of gay-bashing.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:44, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
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::::::::Ok, i can see now how we got in to this cycle of debate, there are a lot of issues at stake here, some of a real Chicken-and-Egg style: Is someone unhappy because they are homosexual ''per se'', or unhappy because they are ''made to feel'' unhappy about being homosexual? How far is homophobia linked to latent-homosexuality? Is the diagnosis of homosexuality as a disease in itself an anti-homosexual phenomenon? Where do we draw the line between proximal psychological causes of discrimination against homosexuals (homophobia) and distal cultural causes of discrimination against homosexuals (anti-homosexualism in general)? How far is homophobia linked to direct anti-homosexual behavior? These are all controversial issues, all i can say is that I disagree profoundly with the idea that homosexuality is in itself a disease, and the idea that it is ok to discriminate against homosexuals. These principles are not incompatible with the idea that homophobia is a psychological diagnosis. [[User:Orgone|Orgone]] 23:55, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
    
:::This requires studying sources such as the link provided above; while homosexuality is no loner considered a mental disease (as it once was by the APA), phobias, and specifically homophobia ''still'' is considered as diagnosiable mental condition by the American Psycriatric Asscociation. Now, here is the kicker: most diagnosed homophobes are so-called "latent homosexuals", their fear of homosexuals being personal, i.e. that they may cross the line from latent attraction into an active homosexual lifestyle.  In this sense, psyciatrists are ''still'' "treating" homosexuals, not homosexuality as a mental disease, but latent homosexuals fear of acting on their impulses.  This is the true, scientific, and medical description of the disease.
 
:::This requires studying sources such as the link provided above; while homosexuality is no loner considered a mental disease (as it once was by the APA), phobias, and specifically homophobia ''still'' is considered as diagnosiable mental condition by the American Psycriatric Asscociation. Now, here is the kicker: most diagnosed homophobes are so-called "latent homosexuals", their fear of homosexuals being personal, i.e. that they may cross the line from latent attraction into an active homosexual lifestyle.  In this sense, psyciatrists are ''still'' "treating" homosexuals, not homosexuality as a mental disease, but latent homosexuals fear of acting on their impulses.  This is the true, scientific, and medical description of the disease.
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