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This article is massively outdated - Labour have been out of government for half a year now (thank God) and this needs to be recognised. However, I can't edit the article. Can someone please change this/unlock the article. Many thanks, [[User:ChelseaR|ChelseaR]] 13:26, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

== Methodism owed more to socialism than Marx? Seriously? ==

== Socialism owed more to Methodism than Marx? Seriously? ==

Morgan Phillips obviously has a right to his own opinion, but I don't buy his view that Methodism contributed more to British socialism than Marx did [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Labour_Party&curid=15138&diff=1295191&oldid=1239159]. First off, the Labour Party was formed in 1900, right at the same time that socialism (Marx's forerunner to communism) was taking root in all the west. Other countries had labor or socialist parties springing up at the same time. Also, unbiblical [[theological liberalism]] was popular among Protestants during this time (a major departure from Church fathers such as Wesley, who actually was politically conservative, even by 18th Century standards). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:45, 20 December 2016 (EST)

Morgan Phillips obviously has a right to his own opinion, but I don't buy his view that Methodism contributed more to British socialism than Marx did [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Labour_Party&curid=15138&diff=1295191&oldid=1239159]. First off, the Labour Party was formed in 1900, right at the same time that socialism (Marx's forerunner to communism) was taking root in all the west. Other countries had labor or socialist parties springing up at the same time. Also, unbiblical [[theological liberalism]] was popular among Protestants during this time (a major departure from Church fathers such as Wesley, who actually was politically conservative, even by 18th Century standards). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:45, 20 December 2016 (EST)

Phillips' claim has gotten a lot of attention over the years, it seems.  I just noticed that this book, which I just cited: "''Labour and the Free Churches, 1918-1939: Radicalism, Righteousness and Religion''" has as its goal of answering that very question - was Phillips correct?  See the [https://books.google.com/books?id=sbAADQAAQBAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s description page].  I have never read the book, but it probably has all the answers sought after. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:30, 21 December 2016 (EST)

Phillips' claim has gotten a lot of attention over the years, it seems.  I just noticed that this book, which I just cited: "''Labour and the Free Churches, 1918-1939: Radicalism, Righteousness and Religion''" has as its goal of answering that very question - was Phillips correct?  See the [https://books.google.com/books?id=sbAADQAAQBAJ&source=gbs_navlinks_s description page].  I have never read the book, but it probably has all the answers sought after. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:30, 21 December 2016 (EST)