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::Secular leftists/liberals are now like trapped rats.[http://americanmanifestobook.blogspot.com/2016/06/think-of-liberals-as-trapped-rats.html]  And now that name-calling is increasingly ineffective to cow their opponents, they are turning to violence because that is all they have left.[http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/why-violence-is-all-liberals-have-left/] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:44, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 
::Secular leftists/liberals are now like trapped rats.[http://americanmanifestobook.blogspot.com/2016/06/think-of-liberals-as-trapped-rats.html]  And now that name-calling is increasingly ineffective to cow their opponents, they are turning to violence because that is all they have left.[http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/why-violence-is-all-liberals-have-left/] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:44, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 
:::Hitler was a Secular leftist/liberal?--[[User:AaronC1|AaronC1]] ([[User talk:AaronC1|talk]]) 12:45, 6 February 2017 (EST)
 
:::Hitler was a Secular leftist/liberal?--[[User:AaronC1|AaronC1]] ([[User talk:AaronC1|talk]]) 12:45, 6 February 2017 (EST)
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First, I did not say that Hitler was a secular leftist.
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Second, the data is cloudy on whether Hitler was an atheist or not due to various conclusions that people take from Hitler's Tabletalk.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler] It is vary hard to know given that Hitler/Joseph Goebbels were both liars.  Hilter was a staunch evolutionist though and the most vocal proponents of evolutionism have often been atheists/agnostics. See: [[Evolutionary racism]]
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Third, Hitler greatly expanded the size of government when he committed perhaps the biggest strategic folly of any leader in history and launched [[Operation Barbarosa]].  The Eastern Front attack was a complete disaster given the timing of the attack (Russian winters), but perhaps it would have failed if he had done it at another time.  Maybe [[Joseph Stalin]] would have attacked first if Germany didn't attack first as some historians argue.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy] It is hard to predict the actions of militant atheist madmen.  Regardless, WWII launched Germany into an era of big government.
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Lastly, I really don't see much of a difference between fascism/communism. Both are undemocratic/big government enterprises that trample civil liberties. See: [[Similarities between Communism, Nazism and liberalism]] (Granted Nazism/communism trample civil liberties to a far higher degree than liberalism). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:01, 6 February 2017 (EST)
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