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:::::As to your grammatical point, as the entry says, εἶπεν is the 3rd Person Singular Indicative Active Aorist of λέγω, which in the silent sense can mean "he meant" or "he judged."  So even if your view were correct, εἶπεν would still be a correct for saying "he meant" or "he judged" in this context.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 01:46, 5 April 2017 (EDT)

:::::As to your grammatical point, as the entry says, εἶπεν is the 3rd Person Singular Indicative Active Aorist of λέγω, which in the silent sense can mean "he meant" or "he judged."  So even if your view were correct, εἶπεν would still be a correct for saying "he meant" or "he judged" in this context.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 01:46, 5 April 2017 (EDT)

"'' εἶπεν would still be a correct for saying "he meant" or "he judged" in this context.''" No. Why not? Because of τῇ θαλάσσῃ. That is a dative object, answering the question "to whom or to what?". "He meant" or "he judged" would need an accusative object, answering the question "whom or what?". Answering the latter question - instead of a real object - is the snippet of direct speech. Mark may have used a simple language, but he didn't make such grammatical errors - AFAIK the worst thing he is accused of is using the middle voice where the passive voice would have been more appropriate. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 12:03, 5 April 2017 (EDT)

"'' εἶπεν would still be a correct for saying "he meant" or "he judged" in this context.''" No. Why not? Because of τῇ θαλάσσῃ. That is a dative object, answering the question "to whom or to what?". "He meant" or "he judged" would need an accusative object, answering the question "whom or what?". Answering the latter question - instead of a real object - is the snippet of direct speech. The additional dative object works only for "he said". Mark may have used a simple language, but he didn't make such grammatical errors - AFAIK the worst thing he is accused of is using the middle voice where the passive voice would have been more appropriate. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 12:03, 5 April 2017 (EDT)