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→‎Statement on Translations: The bottom line is that nothing in the Greek at Mark 4:39 requires a verbal order, which would be silly anyway because the sea obviously cannot hear.
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::::Dictionaries give us various translations which works in the appropriate contexts. To quote you: "that's basic"
 
::::Dictionaries give us various translations which works in the appropriate contexts. To quote you: "that's basic"
 
::::--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 16:52, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
 
::::--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 16:52, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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:::::The limitation is in modern English, and nothing in the Greek requires a verbal order.  The "sea" is merely the indirect object of the verb, which can work as easily with a non-verbal order as a verbal one.  "He judged the sea" is awkward in English, and "He ordered the sea" would be the way to say that today, without quotation marks for the non-verbal judgment. Most judicial orders are non-verbal.
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:::::The bottom line is that nothing in the Greek at Mark 4:39 requires a verbal order, which would be silly anyway because the sea obviously cannot hear.  People who resist accepting the Bible can be the most adamant in insisting on an absurd translation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:41, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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