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==Propaganda vs. fake news==

==Propaganda vs. fake news==

It seems to me there is an important difference between propaganda and fake news.  A government official may lie or mislead, and if those comments are reported accurately and attributed to the source, it is "news" and not "fake news."  Fake news takes the form of fictional sources: "Mayor James Jones of Smithtown reported that ISIS militants shot up city hall." when there is no Smithtown and James Jones is not the Mayor and there was no ISIS attack.  For this reason, the false narrative about Benghazi was '''not''' fake news.  It was propaganda that was accurately reported in the media, and later the media accurately reported why it was a lie. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)

It seems to me there is an important difference between propaganda and fake news.  A government official may lie or mislead, and if those comments are reported accurately and attributed to the source, it is "news" and not "fake news."  Fake news takes the form of fictional sources: "Mayor James Jones of Smithtown reported that ISIS militants shot up city hall." when there is no Smithtown and James Jones is not the Mayor and there was no ISIS attack.  For this reason, the false narrative about Benghazi was '''not''' fake news.  It was propaganda that was accurately reported in the media, and later the media accurately reported why it was a lie. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)

:I'd have to disagree. Propaganda literally means indoctrination, like classroom instruction. It took an a colloquialism that meant news subtly  trying to pursuade, and eventually false reporting. Even when a major news event is ignored, say an explosion of unknown causes, in favor of a 100% factual story about kittens dying in fire, it's considered fake news, false reporting, or propaganda.

:I'd have to disagree. Propaganda literally means indoctrination, like classroom instruction. It took on a colloquialism that meant news subtly  trying to pursuade, and eventually false reporting. Even when a major news event is ignored, say an explosion of unknown causes, in favor of a 100% factual story about kittens dying in fire, it's considered fake news, false reporting, or propaganda.

:Spin is another term that rapidly lost its original meaning. Reagan's media people knew Reagan spoke in such a way that could be ambiguous or misinterpreted. Knowing they were dealing with a hostile press, they went on 'spin patrol' after he gave a speech to 'spin' the story back in the right direction. Reporters loved having personal access to high-level campaign officials for follow up questions. The officials usually answered questions with, "What he meant to say...", or "What he really meant was...". Over time, given Reagan's success, the hostile press rebelled against what they willing participated themselves in and called "spin", spinning the reporters perceptions of the message in the way the Reagan campaign intended, to mean 'bulldung'.

:Spin is another term that rapidly lost its original meaning. Reagan's media people knew Reagan spoke in such a way that could be ambiguous or misinterpreted. Knowing they were dealing with a hostile press, they went on 'spin patrol' after he gave a speech to 'spin' the story back in the right direction. Reporters loved having personal access to high-level campaign officials for follow up questions. The officials usually answered questions with, "What he meant to say...", or "What he really meant was...". Over time, given Reagan's success, the hostile press rebelled against what they willing participated themselves in and called "spin", spinning the reporters perceptions of the message in the way the Reagan campaign intended, to mean 'bulldung'.