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There's debate as to the historicity of Muhammad - which I'm sure you already have an article on - but the thing is, it brings into question the authenticity of Islam as a legitimate religion. The theory goes like this: Islam didn't create the Arab empire, the Arab empire created Islam. If you look at a timeline, the rise of Islam comes right after the fall of the Persian empire. There would have been an ensuing power vacuum, with the Arabs taking over, but here's the thing: as a historically religious region, they needed a religion to tie the people together in unity. Therefore, they created Islam as A) a way to control the population, and B) unite the region under the Arab rule. Just food for thought. [[User:Koidevelopment|Parrrley]] 15:30, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

There's debate as to the historicity of Muhammad - which I'm sure you already have an article on - but the thing is, it brings into question the authenticity of Islam as a legitimate religion. The theory goes like this: Islam didn't create the Arab empire, the Arab empire created Islam. If you look at a timeline, the rise of Islam comes right after the fall of the Persian empire. There would have been an ensuing power vacuum, with the Arabs taking over, but here's the thing: as a historically religious region, they needed a religion to tie the people together in unity. Therefore, they created Islam as A) a way to control the population, and B) unite the region under the Arab rule. Just food for thought. [[User:Koidevelopment|Parrrley]] 15:30, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

:Yes, that's why Islam is a political movement. It's as Toynbee says, if a Sanhedrin or Roman procurator existed in Mohammad's time, he would have been lynched on a cross, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 19:35, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

:Yes, that's why Islam is a political movement. It's as Toynbee says, if a Sanhedrin or Roman procurator existed in Mohammad's time, he would have been lynched on a cross, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 19:35, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

:Also, Persian or Roman empire? The Persian Empire collapsed about 5he time of [[Alexander the Great]], some 1400 years prior. The Arabian Penninsula always laid on the outskirts of any of the world's great powers - until oil was discovered. As a sort of no-mans-land, like Afghanistan in the 1990s, it was the perfect place to organize a resistance or competition with any of the other rising movements or powers in the world, which at that time was Christianity. I'm of the opinion that was a driving motive of Mohammad. Christianity spread outdide Jerusalem for several centuries, and was making inroads among the diverse tribes of the Arabian penninsula. Mohammad organized the tribes to check it in its tracks by violent jihad. Islam's origins are a  reaction to the growth and spread of Christianity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 21:54, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

:Also, Persian or Roman empire? The Persian Empire collapsed about the time of [[Alexander the Great]], some 1400 years prior. The Arabian Penninsula always laid on the outskirts of any of the world's great powers - until oil was discovered. As a sort of no-mans-land, like Afghanistan in the 1990s, it was the perfect place to organize a resistance or competition with any of the other rising movements or powers in the world, which at that time was Christianity. I'm of the opinion that was a driving motive of Mohammad. Christianity spread outdide Jerusalem for several centuries, and was making inroads among the diverse tribes of the Arabian penninsula. Mohammad organized the tribes to check it in its tracks by violent jihad. Islam's origins are a  reaction to the growth and spread of Christianity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]} 21:54, 4 May 2017 (EDT)