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::It's key elements were violating Belgian neutrality, risking war with Great Britain, and fast mobilization to the front. But such was the level of paranoid thinking common among soldiers and citizens, and deemed an acceptable risk in the interest of national security. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Lock Up The Coup Plotters!'']]</sup> 20:15, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
 
::It's key elements were violating Belgian neutrality, risking war with Great Britain, and fast mobilization to the front. But such was the level of paranoid thinking common among soldiers and citizens, and deemed an acceptable risk in the interest of national security. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Lock Up The Coup Plotters!'']]</sup> 20:15, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
 
:::There was a group of senior people, including Ludendorff and Groener, who had been trained by Schlieffen and worshipped him. Moltke was never convinced that the plan would work. His view was that something had to be done about the Russians before they overtook Germany. Striking first at France and then at Russia was a compromise, at least in terms of internal General Staff politics. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:15, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
 
:::There was a group of senior people, including Ludendorff and Groener, who had been trained by Schlieffen and worshipped him. Moltke was never convinced that the plan would work. His view was that something had to be done about the Russians before they overtook Germany. Striking first at France and then at Russia was a compromise, at least in terms of internal General Staff politics. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:15, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
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::::What I'm saying is the Schleiffen plan wasn't a written document; it was government policy that affected budgets, even local budgets like the building of rail lines and terminals. Everyone knew it. If war came, Belgian neutrality would have to be violated as millions in manpower would be rushed to the front. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Lock Up The Coup Plotters!'']]</sup> 00:01, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
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