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:::There was a group of senior people, including Ludendorff and Groener, who had been trained by Schlieffen and worshipped him. Moltke was never convinced that the plan would work. His view was that something had to be done about the Russians before they overtook Germany. Striking first at France and then at Russia was a compromise, at least in terms of internal General Staff politics. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:15, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
:::There was a group of senior people, including Ludendorff and Groener, who had been trained by Schlieffen and worshipped him. Moltke was never convinced that the plan would work. His view was that something had to be done about the Russians before they overtook Germany. Striking first at France and then at Russia was a compromise, at least in terms of internal General Staff politics. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:15, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
::::What I'm saying is the Schleiffen plan wasn't a written document; it was government policy that affected budgets, even local budgets like the building of rail lines and terminals. Everyone knew it. If war came, Belgian neutrality would have to be violated as millions in manpower would be rushed to the front. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Lock Up The Coup Plotters!'']]</sup> 00:01, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
::::What I'm saying is the Schleiffen plan wasn't a written document; it was government policy that affected budgets, even local budgets like the building of rail lines and terminals. Everyone knew it. If war came, Belgian neutrality would have to be violated as millions in manpower would be rushed to the front. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Lock Up The Coup Plotters!'']]</sup> 00:01, 21 May 2017 (EDT)
::::There's no way to keep it secret, as millions of foot soldiers for twenty years were trained in what to do when the order came, with some broad outline of the basic strategy, thinking, and theory. All came to accept violating Belgian neutrality and risking war with GB. Belgians knew the plan. Great Britain knew the plan. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Lock Up The Coup Plotters!'']]</sup> 00:08, 21 May 2017 (EDT)