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→Absurd rationale for removing the picture at the Evergreen Chapel: new section
:::::I appreciate the source and will validate the information. In the meantime, I suggest that everyone rethink the overall format of the article. At present, the first section presents a series of weak arguments for Obama being a Muslim and the second section explains Obama's own view of his religious beliefs followed by a point-by-point refutation of the first section. Some, like the funeral point, was a bit of trolling by someone who was unhappy that Obama did not attend the Reagan and Scalia funerals. Others, like the statement that Obama did not visit Israel during his first term, was probably written before Obama visited Israel twice during his second term. I would feel more comfortable with an article that did not try (weakly) to convince the reader that Obama is a Muslim and then shows how Obama is not a Muslim. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:55, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
:::::I appreciate the source and will validate the information. In the meantime, I suggest that everyone rethink the overall format of the article. At present, the first section presents a series of weak arguments for Obama being a Muslim and the second section explains Obama's own view of his religious beliefs followed by a point-by-point refutation of the first section. Some, like the funeral point, was a bit of trolling by someone who was unhappy that Obama did not attend the Reagan and Scalia funerals. Others, like the statement that Obama did not visit Israel during his first term, was probably written before Obama visited Israel twice during his second term. I would feel more comfortable with an article that did not try (weakly) to convince the reader that Obama is a Muslim and then shows how Obama is not a Muslim. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:55, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
:::::::The whole page is just a garbled mess - and it's got 400,OOO hits. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:02, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
:::::::The whole page is just a garbled mess - and it's got 400,OOO hits. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:02, 31 May 2017 (EDT)
== Absurd rationale for removing the picture at the Evergreen Chapel ==
The reasons given for finding the picture improper:
*It needs a date.
*Was it [taken] early during Obama's presidency, before he figured out a way to avoid photos like this?
*Why was Obama there?
*What was he saying? Was he preaching the Gospel, as the photo misleadingly suggests?
Are utterly absurd, and suggest that the picture, and its inclusion in the article, is being held to a standard that is simply hypocritical. We could ask similar questions about some other pictures, for which the explanations are missing.
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[[Image:Ed poor grinning.jpg|right|thumb|114px|Ed Poor on campus]]
This picture, on [[User_talk:Ed_Poor|Ed Poor's user talk page]], has a caption that says "Ed Poor on campus", but there is no further explanation. What campus? Was he a student, or alumnus, or faculty member there? What was he doing? Was he trying to imply that he was a student or alumnus of that college? Was the picture taken before he figured out a way to avoid photos like this, perhaps to avoid giving a misleading impression?
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[[File:PzMyers2.jpg|thumbnail|114px|right|PZ Myers]]
This picture, appearing on a great many pages, including [[PZ Myers|The subject's article page]], was obtained from a commercial source, and as such, its date can be traced. He appears to be in a pub, and holding a mug of ale. Why was he there? Did he actually drink the ale? Did he frequent pubs? Was the picture taken before he figured out a way to avoid photos showing him holding a mug of ale, perhaps to avoid giving a misleading impression?
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[[Image:Img524 Andy.jpg|thumb|114px|Andy Schlafly at Columbia University]]
This picture, on [[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly's user page]], has a caption that says "Andy Schlafly at Columbia University", and a creation comment saying that it was "in an academic setting". What was the setting, and why was he in it? Was he attending a commencement? Was he a student there? Alumnus? Faculty member? Was the picture taken before he figured out a way to avoid photos like this, perhaps to avoid giving a misleading impression?
[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:51, 31 May 2017 (EDT)