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== discussion of time period ==

== discussion of time period ==

There is this time period 1:45-4:19AM of 2 hours, 34 minutes which is a mystery.  It has been stated that Seth said that instead of accepting a ride home, he planned to go to a near 2nd bar (Wonderland Ballroom).  Apparently that bar had its closing time at 3 in the morning.  It is strange that there is no proof that Seth went there, for you expect security cameras at a bar.  But if Seth went there, that cuts the "unaccounted" time down to 1 hour and 19 minutes max, with reduction for phone talking, the time period of which will be on record.   Probably Seth spent some time talking outside Lou's bar before he went anywhere.  If there is ever proof that Seth went to Wonderland and remained there until 3 AM closing, he may have hung outside for a while chatting with persons (just speculation).  At some point he was talking with his girl friend on the phone shortly before he was killed.  I don't know how long that conversation was, but its time should be accounted for by phone records and whatever his girl friend says.  If anyone finds her testimony, that would make a good addition to this article.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:23, 21 August 2016 (EDT))

There is this time period 1:45-4:19AM of 2 hours, 34 minutes which was considered a mystery.  It has been stated that Seth said that instead of accepting a ride home, he planned to go to a near 2nd bar (Wonderland Ballroom).  Apparently that bar had its closing time at 3 in the morning.  But if he went there, it seems strange that there is no proof that Seth went there, for you expect security cameras at a bar.  But if Seth went there, that could cut the "unaccounted" time down to 1 hour and 19 minutes max.  But it appears from a Washington Post statement that Seth was on the phone with Kelsey Mulka from 2:05-approx 4:19 which call will be a matter of phone record. (There is a gap of a few minutes in this long call; actually it is two calls.)  Perhaps Seth spent some time talking outside Lou's bar before he went anywhere.  If there is ever proof that Seth went to Wonderland and remained there until 3 AM closing, he may have hung outside for a while chatting with persons (just speculation).  But that would mean that Seth was talking to Kelsey at Wonderland Bar, though indoor cell phone reception was stated to have been a problem for Seth (by his father).  He was talking with his girl friend on the phone until shortly before he was killed.  If anyone finds her testimony on those calls that would make a good addition to this article.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 15:21, 8 July 2017 (EDT))

 

:: As of June 8, 2017:  The phone log [posted in a separate section below] reported by The Washington Post indicates that a lot of the time between leaving Lou's Bar and 4:19AM was consumed by cell phone connection, particularly between Seth and his girl friend, possibly conducted outdoors for better cell phone reception.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 00:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT))

Update June 8, 2017:  The phone log [posted in a separate section below] reported by The Washington Post indicates that a lot of the time between leaving Lou's Bar and 4:19AM was consumed by cell phone conversations, particularly between Seth and his girl friend, possibly conducted outdoors for better cell phone reception.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 00:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT))

== How would the cops know that 2 guys approached Rich?  Skype? ==

== How would the cops know that 2 guys approached Rich?  Skype? ==