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| | ::As crazy as it is, these things do happen. A Congressional staffer is dispatched to FBI headquarters to perform an oversight function. An FBI source discloses information legally. The staffer returns and reports to the chairman. The chairman or staffer leak to Hersch, and follow your scenario from there. It would be legal without disrupting, obstructing, or compromising an investigation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 20:15, 3 August 2017 (EDT) | | ::As crazy as it is, these things do happen. A Congressional staffer is dispatched to FBI headquarters to perform an oversight function. An FBI source discloses information legally. The staffer returns and reports to the chairman. The chairman or staffer leak to Hersch, and follow your scenario from there. It would be legal without disrupting, obstructing, or compromising an investigation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 20:15, 3 August 2017 (EDT) |
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| − | :::::If someone (like Wheeler or Hersh) says that HE HAS an FBI source, that should not mean that he has a Congressional liason contact who told that someone that he had an FBI source. We are really getting into a gossip chain that way also: 1) unknown FBI agent claims something he saw (cud be lying) & tells it to Congressional staffer. 2) Congr staffer reports to Hersh that an FBI guy said that he saw something (staffer cud have misunderstood, faulty memory or be lying), 3) Hersh claims FBI guy said something (doesn't mention Congr staffer), but Hersh cud have misunderstood or be lying, 4) Hersh tells Butowski (on tape) without clear context -- Hersh cud have said before it all: "Let me spin you a yarn." 5) Buttowsky tells story to Rod Wheeler (w/ possible alterations or exaggerations). 6) Could all that be behind Rod Wheeler coming out & saying that he Rod Wheeler has an FBI source??? And with all that, there is no indication that anyone in the FBI told anything about Seth Rich to trump as part of intelligence briefing, which I wud think FBI wud have to do. And Trump never breathes a word about it to public. So what kind of ground are we on here? ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 15:51, 4 August 2017 (EDT)) | + | :::::If someone (like Wheeler or Hersh) says that HE HAS an FBI source, that should not mean that he has a Congressional liason contact who told ''that-someone'' that he had an FBI source. We are really getting into a gossip chain that way also: 1) unknown FBI agent claims something he saw (cud be lying) & tells it to Congressional staffer. 2) Congr staffer reports to Hersh that an FBI guy said that he saw something (staffer cud have misunderstood, faulty memory or be lying), 3) Hersh claims FBI guy said something (doesn't mention Congr staffer), but Hersh cud have misunderstood or be lying, 4) Hersh tells Butowski (on tape) without clear context -- Hersh cud have said before it all: "Let me spin you a yarn." 5) Buttowsky tells story to Rod Wheeler (w/ possible alterations or exaggerations). 6) Could all that be behind Rod Wheeler coming out & saying that he Rod Wheeler has an FBI source??? And with all that, there is no indication that anyone in the FBI told anything about Seth Rich to trump as part of intelligence briefing, which I wud think FBI wud have to do. And Trump never breathes a word about it to public. So what kind of ground are we on here? ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 15:51, 4 August 2017 (EDT)) |
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| | :::The WickedPedia article on Seymour Hersh claims that his speeches can contain intentional falsehood: | | :::The WickedPedia article on Seymour Hersh claims that his speeches can contain intentional falsehood: |
| | ::::I[Q]n an interview with New York magazine, Hersh made a distinction between the standards of strict factual accuracy for his print reporting and the leeway he allows himself in speeches, in which he may talk informally about stories still being worked on or blur information to protect his sources. "Sometimes I change events, dates, and places in a certain way to protect people. ... I can't fudge what I write. But I can certainly fudge what I say."[/Q] ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 15:51, 4 August 2017 (EDT)) | | ::::I[Q]n an interview with New York magazine, Hersh made a distinction between the standards of strict factual accuracy for his print reporting and the leeway he allows himself in speeches, in which he may talk informally about stories still being worked on or blur information to protect his sources. "Sometimes I change events, dates, and places in a certain way to protect people. ... I can't fudge what I write. But I can certainly fudge what I say."[/Q] ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 15:51, 4 August 2017 (EDT)) |