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Talk:Queen Elizabeth II (view source)
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:::The Queen can veto whatever law she wants to. Elizabeth doesn't do it due to convention. But you admit it yourself. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:30, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
:::The Queen can veto whatever law she wants to. Elizabeth doesn't do it due to convention. But you admit it yourself. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:30, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
::The Queen does not "veto" Acts because, like America, Britain is what we call "a democracy". The Queen does not attempt to exercise her personal will over the will of the people. The experience of the American Revolution is just one of the reasons why. Meanwhile, the ignorant are allowed to edit war the article to insert their fallacious opinions. Hmm, I begin to see the problem here. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:36, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
::The Queen does not "veto" Acts because, like America, Britain is what we call "a democracy". The Queen does not attempt to exercise her personal will over the will of the people. The experience of the American Revolution is just one of the reasons why. Meanwhile, the ignorant are allowed to edit war the article to insert their fallacious opinions. Hmm, I begin to see the problem here. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:36, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
:::What I'm saying is that it seems that the Queen has the ability to veto (or "not sign" or whatever you call it in the UK). Of course it would be unprecedented, but I think someone with more guts would do it. We could not the precedent of not vetoing legislation along with that paragraph, explaining why she did not veto the bills. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
::::(''edit conflict'') Compared to France (French Revolution, the many other revolutions) or Russia (Russian Revolution), Britain has been extremely civil in dealing with its monarchs (Glorious Revolution, etc.). I do remember reading in the news recently about how the Queen's hat she wore one day (was it the 2017 House of Commons speech?) was designed like the EU flag. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:32, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
::::(''edit conflict'') Compared to France (French Revolution, the many other revolutions) or Russia (Russian Revolution), Britain has been extremely civil in dealing with its monarchs (Glorious Revolution, etc.). I do remember reading in the news recently about how the Queen's hat she wore one day (was it the 2017 House of Commons speech?) was designed like the EU flag. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:32, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
:::::Perhaps we're more civil because they learned their lesson and didn't attempt to override the will of Parliament/the people. And, no offense, but observing/discussing what hats/dresses/coats/shoes that royals choose to wear seems to be a peculiar fascination limited just to Americans. Most Britons don't notice and don't care. We see her on the stamps and the banknotes, is about all. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:39, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
:::::Perhaps we're more civil because they learned their lesson and didn't attempt to override the will of Parliament/the people. And, no offense, but observing/discussing what hats/dresses/coats/shoes that royals choose to wear seems to be a peculiar fascination limited just to Americans. Most Britons don't notice and don't care. We see her on the stamps and the banknotes, is about all. [[User:NeilWalker|NeilWalker]] ([[User talk:NeilWalker|talk]]) 16:39, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
::::::The UK media seemed to care, both on the Left[http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-40356113][https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2017/jun/21/queens-hat-alludes-to-brexit][http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/queens-speech-ascot-eu-flag-hat-a7801611.html] and Right.[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4625130/Queen-speech-hat-looks-suspiciously-like-EU-flag.html][http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/queen-trying-tell-us-something-brexit-hat/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)