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::"But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve." - 1 Timothy 2:12-13[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:15, 2 December 2017 (EST)

::"But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve." - 1 Timothy 2:12-13[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:15, 2 December 2017 (EST)

:::Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't think Mr. Guye was even talking about female pastors when he was talking about Christian feminism, just something akin to, say, the Suffragettes, many of whom were Christian women who would NEVER advocate the pill, let alone abortion. But yes, we probably should note that bit somewhere either way. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 06:35, 2 December 2017 (EST)

:::Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't think Mr. Guye was even talking about female pastors when he was talking about Christian feminism, just something akin to, say, the Suffragettes, many of whom were Christian women who would NEVER advocate the pill, let alone abortion. But yes, we probably should note that bit somewhere either way. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 06:35, 2 December 2017 (EST)

::::What percentage of so-called "Christian feminists" believe that a wife is to obey her husband? At least in its present form "Christian feminism" is just another endeavor to infect Christianity with unbiblical ideas. As far as the suffragette movement, I don't know if any of them were Christian women who held biblical Christianity views related to women. I do know that various suffragettes burned down churches.[https://www.christiantoday.com/article/suffrage-the-churchs-rocky-relationship-with-rebellion/67361.htm]

::::What percentage of so-called "Christian feminists" believe that a wife is to obey her husband and that a husband is the head of the family? At least in its present form "Christian feminism" is just another endeavor to infect Christianity with unbiblical ideas. As far as the suffragette movement, I don't know if any of them were Christian women who held biblical Christianity views related to women. I do know that various suffragettes burned down churches.[https://www.christiantoday.com/article/suffrage-the-churchs-rocky-relationship-with-rebellion/67361.htm]

::::Christianity was at the forefront of various movements like abolition, child labor laws, etc. etc. Christendom is also known for its favorable views on the treatment of women (husbands loving their wives like Christ loved the church, etc. etc.), but it is not known for leading the charge as far as feminism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:48, 2 December 2017 (EST)

::::Christianity was at the forefront of various movements like abolition, child labor laws, etc. etc. Christendom is also known for its favorable views on the treatment of women (husbands loving their wives like Christ loved the church, etc. etc.), but it is not known for leading the charge as far as feminism. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:48, 2 December 2017 (EST)

:::::Well, I do know that Susan B. Anthony specifically condemned abortion and the pill and stated that would make women even more enslaved, and I do know that Christians also do not support abortion and the pill (in fact, among us Catholics, it's considered a mortal sin), so there's that to consider. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 09:53, 2 December 2017 (EST)

:::::Well, I do know that Susan B. Anthony specifically condemned abortion and the pill and stated that would make women even more enslaved, and I do know that Christians also do not support abortion and the pill (in fact, among us Catholics, it's considered a mortal sin), so there's that to consider. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 09:53, 2 December 2017 (EST)