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Talk:American Indian Genocide (view source)
Revision as of 02:40, June 26, 2019
, 02:40, June 26, 2019→Genocides did happen
::::@EasternOrthodox: There was never a systematic effort to wipe out all American Indians. Even if the context around those quotes you mentioned supports your view (as opposed to them being soundbites taken out of context), the expressed views never became reality. This argument is also used by leftists trying to accuse the U.S. and its founding values as on-par or comparable to the Nazis and other despicables (of course, they claim, socialism and open borders are always the answer!). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:55, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
::::@EasternOrthodox: There was never a systematic effort to wipe out all American Indians. Even if the context around those quotes you mentioned supports your view (as opposed to them being soundbites taken out of context), the expressed views never became reality. This argument is also used by leftists trying to accuse the U.S. and its founding values as on-par or comparable to the Nazis and other despicables (of course, they claim, socialism and open borders are always the answer!). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:55, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
:::::One possible solution is to give a definition of genocide in the Intro, and then note the term itself was coined after the [[Holocaust]] (1945) to describe the holocaust. Then you can describe how the term has been remolded to fit zillions of other historical events, ''ex post facto'', a type of [[revisionism]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:33, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
:::::One possible solution is to give a definition of genocide in the Intro, and then note the term itself was coined after the [[Holocaust]] (1945) to describe the holocaust. Then you can describe how the term has been remolded to fit zillions of other historical events, ''ex post facto'', a type of [[revisionism]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:33, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
:::::Genocide, like [[totalitarianism]], is term that was invented ''after'' 1945 to describe the events ''prior'' to that era. The terms were unknown and non-existent to the people who lived through those events. Native American Genocide is term that appears in the 1970s. The article could explain [[historical revisionism]] a little better, rather than deny certain specific facts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:40, 25 June 2019 (EDT)