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Talk:American Indian Genocide (view source)
Revision as of 04:17, June 26, 2019
, 04:17, June 26, 2019→Genocides did happen
:::::One possible solution is to give a definition of genocide in the Intro, and then note the term itself was coined after the [[Holocaust]] (1945) to describe the holocaust. Then you can describe how the term has been remolded to fit zillions of other historical events, ''ex post facto'', a type of [[revisionism]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:33, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
:::::One possible solution is to give a definition of genocide in the Intro, and then note the term itself was coined after the [[Holocaust]] (1945) to describe the holocaust. Then you can describe how the term has been remolded to fit zillions of other historical events, ''ex post facto'', a type of [[revisionism]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:33, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
:::::Genocide, like [[totalitarianism]], is term that was invented ''after'' 1945 to describe the events ''prior'' to that era. The terms were unknown and non-existent to the people who lived through those events. Native American Genocide is term that appears in the 1970s. The article could explain [[historical revisionism]] a little better, rather than deny certain specific facts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:40, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
:::::Genocide, like [[totalitarianism]], is term that was invented ''after'' 1945 to describe the events ''prior'' to that era. The terms were unknown and non-existent to the people who lived through those events. Native American Genocide is term that appears in the 1970s. The article could explain [[historical revisionism]] a little better, rather than deny certain specific facts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:40, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
::::::It's all semantics, in the end the state sanctioned murder of innocent lives is just that, the murder of innocent lives. I fail to see how the date of the invention of the term is relevant. One should be able to invent a term whose definition accurately describes the actions of past events and not be hounded on for it. Besides this, if there's any hardcore example of Historical Revisionism, it's the omission of non-trivial facts about something as dire as genocide. It would be like one writing a book downplaying the Holocaust, and leaving out Auschwitz. Then, when the publisher brings up Auschwitz, the writer responds with "the word Holocaust originally referred to burnt offerings anyway." To sum it up, does the fact that the word ''DNA'' originated in the modern age mean we didn't have DNA before then?
::::::@1990'sguy If there is any context that would put those quotes under a different light I would be happy to see it. Also, I wasn't aware that a systematic effort to wipe out all of X was needed for something to qualify as a genocide. But whatever you wish to call it, there is no good in omitting parts of a story yet having an article about Revisionism. [[User:EasternOrthodox|EasternOrthodox]] ([[User talk:EasternOrthodox|talk]]) 00:17, 26 June 2019 (EDT)