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→REPLY TO ANDY SCHLAFLY and "Sguy"
:Secondly, in response to your response to me, the Supreme Court had a 1-8 or 2-7 liberal majority (depending on whether you include Burger, who wasn't reliable) in the 1970s. By 2000, it still only had 3 conservative/originalist justices, though O'Connor and Kennedy were more moderate than liberal. Also, I would like to know which "conservative judges" you're referring to. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:27, 28 June 2019 (EDT)
:Secondly, in response to your response to me, the Supreme Court had a 1-8 or 2-7 liberal majority (depending on whether you include Burger, who wasn't reliable) in the 1970s. By 2000, it still only had 3 conservative/originalist justices, though O'Connor and Kennedy were more moderate than liberal. Also, I would like to know which "conservative judges" you're referring to. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:27, 28 June 2019 (EDT)
:::I certainly understand why you do NOT respect arguments which present factual details (along with bibliographic references). You prefer to post '''ONLY''' your personal opinions. With respect to your "'''slowly creeping toward socialism'''" comment -- that has been standard extreme right rhetoric since the 1920's.
:::What you STILL do not comprehend is that the ENTIRE conservative movement in our country has rejected YOUR interpretation of the Birch Society. Even many former prominent JBS members left the Society in disgust at the dishonesty and corruption within it.
:::With respect to your comments about the Supreme Court (or lower courts), let's face the reality: In YOUR scheme of things, NO adverse court decision against the JBS is EVER acceptable because you believe that the JBS is infallible. There is NO factual information (even when it originates with sources that the JBS has historically praised and recommended) that you will accept as valid.
:::Conservatism is a continuum. It is NOT one single absolute truth. The ultimate fact is very simple: The range of people who denounced and rejected the JBS spans the entire spectrum of conservative thought -- including most conservative magazines and newspapers along with the most respected conservative intellectuals. Arguably the most famous conservative intellectual of the 20th century (Russell Kirk) pointed out that:
:::'''"Robert Welch...is remarkably ignorant of the nature of the Communist conspiracy which he denounces; and the sound of his own words has led him to the verge of what Burke called ‘metaphysical madness’. Ever since he founded his society he has done more to injure the cause of responsible conservatism than to act effectively against communism…Many members of the Birch Society, I think,…got into the Society without knowing Mr. Welch’s drift, and might have left some time ago, had they not disliked seeming to desert under fire. Already some of the original abler members have drifted away or become inactive. This leaves the Society in the hands of the fanatic fringe of course…"'''
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:::'''"Nothing could do more to discredit all conservatives than the violent language and unreal views regularly found in American Opinion. As several conservatively-inclined gentlemen have remarked to me...they would be sorely tempted to believe that the leaders of the Birch Society are agents of the Kremlin subtly working to discredit all opposition to Communism by reducing anti-Communism to absurdity. All Americans of a conservative bent should be warned against associating themselves with an organization which is totally ineffectual in resisting Communism and socialism..."'''