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::: Enacting "government-mandated" contracts is not socialism. Reducing the power of the bourgeosie, placing the means of production under worker-ownership, and abolishing the capitalist system is socialism. Also, you still did not address my point.
::: Enacting "government-mandated" contracts is not socialism. Reducing the power of the bourgeosie, placing the means of production under worker-ownership, and abolishing the capitalist system is socialism. Also, you still did not address my point.
::::Let's zero in on this momentarily. (a) Obamacare was the creation of Democrat members of Congress, not one man. (b) The focus is the mandates, both employer and individual. (c) And the coercive nature of those mandates, "Shared responsibility payment". (d) As Jonathan Gruber stated, the Congressional Budget Office could not score the shared responsibility payment as a tax. "If it's a tax, the bill fails."
(e) '''Q.''' What is a tax?
'''A.''' A tax is revenue to support the government.
'''Q.''' What is the shared responsibility payment?
'''A.''' The shared responsibility payment was a transfer of wealth from one group of citizens to other people (even non-citizens).
'''Q.''' Who are these other people?
'''A'''. People who qualify based on legislation.
'''Q.''' I thought all people are equal under the law; why should some people be penalized to pay for other people's healthcare?
'''A.''' Communism.
'''Q.''' What happened to equal justice under the law? Isn't that the job of government?
'''A.'''hamanahamanahamana.
[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 21:38, 16 July 2019 (EDT)
> My question is pretty simple for this ML guy, should he return: What makes you think that an ideology that has to control 80% or more of an individual's existence a good thing, up to and including stuffing someone into a gulag for not toeing the commie party line?
> My question is pretty simple for this ML guy, should he return: What makes you think that an ideology that has to control 80% or more of an individual's existence a good thing, up to and including stuffing someone into a gulag for not toeing the commie party line?