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Template talk:Deep State (view source)
Revision as of 16:11, September 4, 2019
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:::::::Still, I don't believe that alone would warrant calling Marshall himself a deep stater. For him to qualify as such, there would have to be a clear link between him and an entity who had undue influence over the government. --[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:45, 4 September 2019 (EDT)
:::::::Still, I don't believe that alone would warrant calling Marshall himself a deep stater. For him to qualify as such, there would have to be a clear link between him and an entity who had undue influence over the government. --[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:45, 4 September 2019 (EDT)
:::::::In my opinion, a much better argument in favor of labeling Marshall as a deep stater would be the fact that he was Secretary of State when China fell to communism. That alone was enough to convince Joe McCarthy that Marshall was a closet communist. I don't know much about Truman's pre-1945 China policy, so I can't comment on that. --[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:53, 4 September 2019 (EDT)
:::::::In my opinion, a much better argument in favor of labeling Marshall as a deep stater would be the fact that he was Secretary of State when China fell to communism. That alone was enough to convince Joe McCarthy that Marshall was a closet communist. I don't know much about Truman's pre-1945 China policy, so I can't comment on that. --[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 11:53, 4 September 2019 (EDT)
::::::::His "agrarian reformer" statement came from the [[CCP]], its fraternal [[CPUSA]]. amd its parent [[CPSU]]. Although Eisenhower was his chief defender, before the decade was over Ike was alarmed by the growth of the [[military industrial complex]]. Marshall was the chief link between civilian and military at the time of the passage of the National Security Act of 1947.
::::::::Much ink has been spilled over Marshall, and while it's hard to say he was a fool, he certainly lent himself to be a [[useful idiot]] to his communist advisers in the case of [[China]]. But I don't mean to detract from any of his great accomplishments, either. Like Trump, every man has his flaws. Personally, I don't believe he was part of a conspiracy.
::::::::It's a very interesting question, ''How can a man of great intellect, compassion, and vision, also be so naive?'' If it were up to me, I'd leave him off the Template. For now, we need the links to show how dangerous communism is, whether foreign or domestic, and how even great leaders can be manipulated, deceived, and duped, with permanent damage to society, the planet, and their own reputation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 12:11, 4 September 2019 (EDT)