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::::::He may cite 5 eyewitnesses, but he discounts reports from at least 5 other eyewitnesses who disagree with his POV. He's assuming his conclusion. Even the jihadwatch article I've cited (which is hardly objective) says that the evidence is inconclusive. If Conservapedia's goal is accuracy and not truthiness, then we should be honest and say that the evidence is inconclusive.[[User:JohnSmith|JohnSmith]] 18:03, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
::::::He may cite 5 eyewitnesses, but he discounts reports from at least 5 other eyewitnesses who disagree with his POV. He's assuming his conclusion. Even the jihadwatch article I've cited (which is hardly objective) says that the evidence is inconclusive. If Conservapedia's goal is accuracy and not truthiness, then we should be honest and say that the evidence is inconclusive.[[User:JohnSmith|JohnSmith]] 18:03, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
:::::::Show some cites. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:04, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
:::::::Show some cites. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:04, 12 May 2007 (EDT)
::::::::Sure: "But Abdi, a former revolutionary student turned radical reformer who was jailed in 2002 for selling intelligence to foreigners including the US-based polling company Gallup, said the former American hostages had poor memories. The Times said Ahmadinejad was a 23-year-old university student at the time of the takeover in November 1979 and was a founding member of the radical student group that organised the storming of the US Embassy compound. Mohsen Mirdamadi, another ringleader of the hostage-taking drama in Tehran, rejected the Times report. “I deny such reports. Ahmadinejad was not a member of the radical students’ group who seized the embassy,” said Mirdamadi, a former lawmaker. Like many of the former hostage-takers, Mirdamadi is now an outspoken proponent of the need to reform Iran’s Islamic political system." <ref>http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_1-7-2005_pg4_16</ref>. "But Ahmadinejad's office denied these allegations and other hostage-takers, some of them now political opponents of Ahmadinejad – including Mohsen Mirdamadi, Hamid Reza, Abbas Abdi, Mohammad-Reza Khatami, and Saeed Hajjarian Jalaiepour – confirmed his account. One former American hostage denied Ahmadinejad had been a captor. Amir Taheri, editor-in-chief of a Tehran newspaper in the shah's time, concluded that "it is almost certain Ahmadinejad was not directly involved in the US embassy episode."" <ref>http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014049.php</ref>. "But other former American hostages contacted by CNN say they aren't so sure. Much of the controversy surrounds these photographs from 1979. The one on the left confirmed to be then 23-year-old Ahmedinejad. The one on the right of a hostage-taker. A known ultra-conservative and follower of Iran's supreme leader, Ahmadinejad has detailed much of his past on his own Web site, even listing his membership in a radical student group back in the '70s, some of whose members seized the American embassy. But one of the former student leaders of the hostage-taking told CNN Ahmadinejad was not involved, and close associates of the president-elect, as well as the Iranian government, have also reportedly denied the allegations." <ref>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/30/ldt.01.html</ref>. "A CIA spokeswoman yesterday said she would not comment on the matter because the report is classified. Another administration official, however, said the agency determined that they lacked the evidence to "conclude definitively" on Mr. Ahmadinejad's role. "It was similar to the Scottish court's not proven judgment," the source said." <ref>http://www.nysun.com/article/19982?page_no=2</ref>. "There is no evidence to suggest that; the CIA itself has suggested he was not part of it. But here you get into a tricky position because the Bush administration is unwilling to contradict the American hostages."<ref>http://www.cfr.org/publication/8831/takeyh.html</ref>
::::::::How many more references would you like? [[User:JohnSmith|JohnSmith]] 18:19, 12 May 2007 (EDT)