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| | ::::::Baptism does not save. The blood of Jesus saves. And eternal life does not mean eternal life, I suppose; God must be a liar, then. And you nullify the doctrine of grace and and death of Jesus if you think mortal sin can undo the work of Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:31, 27 October 2019 (EDT) | | ::::::Baptism does not save. The blood of Jesus saves. And eternal life does not mean eternal life, I suppose; God must be a liar, then. And you nullify the doctrine of grace and and death of Jesus if you think mortal sin can undo the work of Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:31, 27 October 2019 (EDT) |
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| − | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-21.htm 1 Peter 3:21 "'''baptism doth also now save us.'''"] You deny this. | + | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-21.htm 1 Peter 3:21 "'''baptism doth also now save us.'''"] —You deny this. |
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| | + | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/john/3-5.htm John 3:5 "'''Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born''' (regenerated) '''of water and ''of'' the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.'''"] —You contradict this. |
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| | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/hebrews/10-26.htm Hebrews 10:26 "if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins."] | | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/hebrews/10-26.htm Hebrews 10:26 "if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins."] |
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| − | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_peter/2-20.htm 2 Peter 2:20 "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning."] You deny this. | + | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_peter/2-20.htm 2 Peter 2:20 "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning."] —You deny this. |
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| − | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-17.htm 2 Peter 3:17 "beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness."] You deny this warning. | + | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-17.htm 2 Peter 3:17 "beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness."] —You deny this warning. |
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| − | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/10-12.htm 1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."] You deny this danger. | + | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/10-12.htm 1 Corinthians 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."] —You deny this danger. |
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| | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_john/1-8.htm 2 John 8 "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward."] | | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_john/1-8.htm 2 John 8 "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward."] |
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| | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-14.htm 2 Timothy 2:14 "Of these things put ''them'' in remembrance, charging ''them'' before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, ''but'' to the subverting of the hearers."] | | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-14.htm 2 Timothy 2:14 "Of these things put ''them'' in remembrance, charging ''them'' before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, ''but'' to the subverting of the hearers."] |
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| − | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/titus/3-9.htm Titus 3:9 "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain."] | + | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/titus/3-9.htm Titus 3:9 "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain."] <br>[http://biblehub.com/titus/3-10.htm Titus 3:10 "A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;"] <br>[http://biblehub.com/titus/3-11.htm Titus 3:11 "Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself."] |
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| | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/mark/7-9.htm Mark 7:9 "Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."] | | :::::::[http://biblehub.com/mark/7-9.htm Mark 7:9 "Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."] |
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| | :::::::Rob, you deny scripture for the sake of your tradition. I stand by the Bible. Baptism saves by the blood of Christ. And Christian believers must be careful not to lose their reward. James 5:19-20. <br> ''Semper Fi ! '' --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:56, 27 October 2019 (EDT) | | :::::::Rob, you deny scripture for the sake of your tradition. I stand by the Bible. Baptism saves by the blood of Christ. And Christian believers must be careful not to lose their reward. James 5:19-20. <br> ''Semper Fi ! '' --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 18:56, 27 October 2019 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::It is the blood of Christ that saves, not water baptism. Eternal life means eternal life. ''While we yet sinners (helpless), Christ died.'' There is nothing you can do to save your self, other than faith in the finished work of Christ. ''For by grace are ye saved'', not baptism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:12, 27 October 2019 (EDT) | | ::::::::It is the blood of Christ that saves, not water baptism. Eternal life means eternal life. ''While we yet sinners (helpless), Christ died.'' There is nothing you can do to save your self, other than faith in the finished work of Christ. ''For by grace are ye saved'', not baptism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 19:12, 27 October 2019 (EDT) |
| | + | :::::::::[http://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-21.htm 1 Peter 3:21 "'''baptism doth also now save us.'''"] |
| | + | :::::::::[http://biblehub.com/john/3-5.htm John 3:5 "'''Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born''' (regenerated) '''of water and ''of'' the Spirit, he <big>cannot</big> enter into the kingdom of God.'''"] <br> I will not debate this further. It is evident you contradict the Bible. A perfect example of [[Confirmation bias]] and [[Fallacy of invincible ignorance]]. I will die before I ever deny the word of Jesus Christ. <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 19:33, 27 October 2019 (EDT) |