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→"Helpless" babies and sinners - Ephesians 2:11-16 and Romans 5:12-19; Romans 5:6-11 and 8:31-39; 2 Timothy 2:13 and 2 Corinthians 1:19-22 and John 10:35
::::::::::::''Without shedding of blood there is no remission.'' I suspect the problem is you do not under stand what salvation is.
::::::::::::''Without shedding of blood there is no remission.'' I suspect the problem is you do not under stand what salvation is.
::::::::::::Lean what salvation is first, then we'll talk about being immersed in the word, or baptism in the spirit (same thing). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:12, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::::Lean what salvation is first, then we'll talk about being immersed in the word, or baptism in the spirit (same thing). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:12, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
===Salvation===
Let's go back to John 3:3,5. Jesus first says,
:''Except a man be born again, he cannot '''see''' the kingdom of God.''
In verse 5 he says.
:''Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot '''enter''' into the kingdom of God.
So, what is the difference between "seeing" the Kingdom of God, and "entering" the Kingdom of God? Moses saw the Promised Land, but did not enter. Was Moses saved? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:25, 27 October 2019 (EDT)