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:What is so difficult about affirming this simple truth? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 15:54, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
 
:What is so difficult about affirming this simple truth? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 15:54, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
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::It's not difficult. (You didn't mention the blood of Christ.) Except a man be '''born of water and the Spirit''', he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jn 3:5. He '''saves us''', not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his mercy, '''by the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit'''. Tt 3:5. What's so difficult about affirming this simple truth? --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:31, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
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::It's not difficult. (You didn't mention the blood of Christ.) Except a man be '''born of water and the Spirit''', he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jn 3:5. He '''saves us''', not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of his mercy, '''by the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit'''. Tt 3:5.  
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::What is so difficult about affirming this simple truth? --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:31, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
 
:::You are right: Only the spirit of God through Christ saves us. The Bible says that only the spirit of God through Christ saves us by the washing of water with the word, by the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit. [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A25-27&version=NRSVCE '''Ephesians 5:25-27''']; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus+3%3A5&version=NRSVCE '''Titus 3:5'''] What's so difficult about affirming this simple truth of the Bible? --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 15:24, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
 
:::You are right: Only the spirit of God through Christ saves us. The Bible says that only the spirit of God through Christ saves us by the washing of water with the word, by the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit. [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A25-27&version=NRSVCE '''Ephesians 5:25-27''']; [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus+3%3A5&version=NRSVCE '''Titus 3:5'''] What's so difficult about affirming this simple truth of the Bible? --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 15:24, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
  
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