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:::All of my citations of scripture prove that I accept the authority of scripture. It is you who have rejected all the evidence cited from the Bible. You have closed your heart to the word of God. That is my final word. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:30, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
 
:::All of my citations of scripture prove that I accept the authority of scripture. It is you who have rejected all the evidence cited from the Bible. You have closed your heart to the word of God. That is my final word. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:30, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
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::::True. Now go back and re-read 1 Corinthians chapter 2. Then answer the question, ''Was the gospel preached to Israel in the wilderness?'' (the term "gospel" is a Greek word which does not appear anywhere in the Old Testament Hebrew). Then re-read Exodus 30-33, and saw how (1) Moses saw God, (2) Moses had the mind of Christ, (3) Moses offered himself as a sacrifice for the sin of the people but God rejected his offer, (4) Moses was saved by grace.
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::::''ye are not under the law, but under grace''.
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::::Now, there are carnal Christians (1 Cor 3:3) and baby Christians (I call them milk and cookie Christians 1 Pet 2:2); then  there are meat and potato Christians (Heb 5:14 ''strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil'').  Carnal Christians and baby Christians are basically the same thing - they still wrestle with the doctrine of salvation by grace versus law keeping. They think faith is work or task they must perform. But I'm getting way ahead of myself here.
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::::Forget baptism, for now. Answer these questions:
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::::*What is faith?
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::::*What is salvation?
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::::*What is God's grace?
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::::Once we have an understanding of these, then we can discuss baptism. Water baptism ''does not'' give anyone an understanding of these key concepts. Spiritual baptism can accelerate the process. But dogged pride, study, and learning can get you there, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 00:28, 3 November 2019 (EDT)
    
== '''Love more than faith is necessary for salvation''' ==
 
== '''Love more than faith is necessary for salvation''' ==
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