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→Let Us Reason Ministries - a Pentecostal refutation of sola fide - "Did Jesus or the apostles heal everyone because of their faith?"
::::Look, spamming the page with pious sounding rhetoric saves no one. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:19, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
::::Look, spamming the page with pious sounding rhetoric saves no one. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:19, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
::::The church saves? I don't think even Catholic doctrine teaches that. You're bordering on speaking anathema. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:21, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
::::The church saves? I don't think even Catholic doctrine teaches that. You're bordering on speaking anathema. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:21, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
:::::Catholic doctrine "teaches that" in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, 836-837. <br>'''836''' "All men are called to this catholic unity of the People of God. . . . And to it, in different ways, belong or are ordered: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally all mankind, called by God's grace to salvation." <br>
'''837''' "Fully incorporated into the society of the Church are those who, possessing the Spirit of Christ, accept all the means of salvation given to the Church together with her entire organization, and who - by the bonds constituted by the profession of faith, the sacraments, ecclesiastical government, and communion - are joined in the visible structure of the Church of Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but 'in body' not 'in heart.'" <br> You clearly don't know what you're talking about. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:37, 3 November 2019 (EST)
::::Amputating a few words from Philippians doesn't help you.
::::Amputating a few words from Philippians doesn't help you.