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::::''washing of water with the word''. Here, water is used figuratively. The word cleanses when you are immersed in it. Below you deny the authority of the Word. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 22:27, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

::::''washing of water with the word''. Here, water is used figuratively. The word cleanses when you are immersed in it. Below you deny the authority of the Word. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 22:27, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

:::::'''What is your authority for saying the word water in this text is used figuratively?''' The biblical author doesn't say it is either figurative or that it is an image of being immersed in the study of the scriptures of the Lord. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:38, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

:::::'''What is your authority for saying the word water in this text is used figuratively?''' The biblical author doesn't say it is either figurative or that it is a figurative image of being immersed in the study of the scriptures of the Lord. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 22:38, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

::::::Ok then, try taking a bath with words. You can either shout at the dirt or rip pages out of a bible to scrub yourself.  

::::::Ok then, try taking a bath with words. You can either shout at the dirt or rip pages out of a bible to scrub yourself.  

::::::''To be carnally minded is death. To be spiritually minded is life and peace.''  This is obviously spiritual language (''but the carnal mind '''cannot''' understand'').  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 23:54, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

::::::''To be carnally minded is death. To be spiritually minded is life and peace.''  This is obviously spiritual language (''but the carnal mind '''cannot''' understand'').  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]} 23:54, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

:::::::According to 1 Timothy 4:4-5 food received with thanksgiving is actually consecrated (made sacred, holy) by the word of God and prayer. It is the same with water consecrated for baptism by the words "I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." What is your proof from the text of Titus that the washing of regeneration is figurative? All you offered in answer was an absurdity with sarcasm and insult. You have not demonstrated or proved that "the washing" is figurative and that it cannot possibly involve water. <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:00, 3 November 2019 (EST).

:::::::According to 1 Timothy 4:4-5 food received with thanksgiving is actually consecrated (made sacred, holy) by the word of God and prayer. It is the same with water consecrated for baptism by the words "I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." What is your proof from the text of Titus that the washing of regeneration is figurative? All you offered in answer was an absurdity with sarcasm and insult. You have not demonstrated or proved that "the washing" is figurative and that it cannot possibly involve water. <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:00, 3 November 2019 (EST).

 

:::::I will not let this one pass. You are either totally ignorant of New Testament Greek, or you are an outrageously blatant liar'''!''' <br> ''In any case, you have totally [[Falsehood|falsified]] the meaning of this text of the Bible.'' By clearly doing so, you have completely disqualified yourself as a Bible Christian, by your denying of the authority of the Word of the Lord: —'''λουτροῦ''' ''loutrou''. (Your interpretation is an illicit [[Eisegesis|eisegetical]] error, not a genuine [[exegesis]].)  

:::::I will not let this one pass. You are either totally ignorant of New Testament Greek, or you are an outrageously blatant liar'''!''' <br> ''In any case, you have totally [[Falsehood|falsified]] the meaning of this text of the Bible.'' By clearly doing so, you have completely disqualified yourself as a Bible Christian, by your denying of the authority of the Word of the Lord: —'''λουτροῦ''' ''loutrou''. (Your interpretation is an illicit [[Eisegesis|eisegetical]] error, not a genuine [[exegesis]].)