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::::::::::::Huh? Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question (and for good measure, you toss in ''washing of water with the word'', again).  You know good and well that only the shed blood of Jesus and his resurrection brings our salvation. You also know salvation is by the grace of God, and cannot be earned by works.  Why can't you just say that? Stop refuting God, and denying God's work, and making the claim that your salvation is dependent on an action on YOUR part. That, is ''another gospel, which is no gospel at all.''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 22:43, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::::::::::Huh? Why is it so difficult to answer a simple question (and for good measure, you toss in ''washing of water with the word'', again).  You know good and well that only the shed blood of Jesus and his resurrection brings our salvation. You also know salvation is by the grace of God, and cannot be earned by works.  Why can't you just say that? Stop refuting God, and denying God's work, and making the claim that your salvation is dependent on an action on YOUR part. That, is ''another gospel, which is no gospel at all.''  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 22:43, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::::::::::Here's a good refutation of the 1 Peter 3:21 citation as meaning you need to be baptized to be saved: [https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html] --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:47, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::::::::::Here's a good refutation of the 1 Peter 3:21 citation as meaning you need to be baptized to be saved: [https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html] --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:47, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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:::::::::::::Here's a good refutation of the 1 Peter 3:21 citation as meaning you need to be baptized to be saved: [https://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-1Peter-3-21.html] --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:47, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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::::::::::::::That is very good. The problem is, it is lost on someone who does not understand what salvation is in the first place.
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::::::::::::::God does not need our help for '''''anything'''''. God does not need man to interpret what he says. God does not need us to perform a ritual cause Jesus' death and resurrection isn't quite sufficient. God didn't need David to build a house for him. God didn't Abraham to sleep with Hagar to speed God's promise of a son along.
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::::::::::::::It is foolishness to speak of baptism when you do not even know what faith, grace, or salvation is. First things first. Let this be a lesson to students. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:26, 3 November 2019 (EST)
    
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