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Debate: Infant baptism (view source)
Revision as of 16:31, November 6, 2019
, 16:31, November 6, 2019→More evidence those who are under grace are saved from wrath and judgement
===The postings===
===The postings===
==More evidence those who are under grace are saved from wrath and judgement==
====<small>More evidence those who are under grace are saved from wrath and judgement</small>====
*John 1:12 ''As many as received him gave he power to become sons of God''
<small>*John 1:12 ''As many as received him gave he power to become sons of God''
*Luke 11:11 ''Who among you if your child asks for a fish would give him a snake?''
*Luke 11:11 ''Who among you if your child asks for a fish would give him a snake?''
Once we are adopted into God's family (Romans 8:15; this is the real meaning of "catholic" - those outside the covenants of Abraham) we are nolonger under God's wrath (Romans 5:9). We are saved by grace. This is the meaning of salvation by grace, we ''will not'' be repaid according to our works. Our works are as filthy rags.
Once we are adopted into God's family (Romans 8:15; this is the real meaning of "catholic" - those outside the covenants of Abraham) we are nolonger under God's wrath (Romans 5:9). We are saved by grace. This is the meaning of salvation by grace, we ''will not'' be repaid according to our works. Our works are as filthy rags.
::::I think [[King Solomon]] is one of the best examples, although he probably died miserably and guilt ridden. OTOH, the spirit of God was taken from [[King Saul]], but that was before the ''spirit without measure'' was given. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:38, 5 November 2019 (EST)
::::I think [[King Solomon]] is one of the best examples, although he probably died miserably and guilt ridden. OTOH, the spirit of God was taken from [[King Saul]], but that was before the ''spirit without measure'' was given. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:38, 5 November 2019 (EST)
:::::Thanks for a straightforward answer. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 21:03, 5 November 2019 (EST)
:::::Thanks for a straightforward answer. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 21:03, 5 November 2019 (EST)</small>
== This should be easy to resolve. ==
== This should be easy to resolve. ==