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Debate: Infant baptism (view source)
Revision as of 08:24, November 8, 2019
, 08:24, November 8, 2019→Bring forth the scriptures that say "baptism cannot save": ditto
::One apostle thought that there were two kinds of baptisms: the baptism of repentence and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and that the second supersedes the old. I agree, but think either type of baptism are public dedications and purifications.
::One apostle thought that there were two kinds of baptisms: the baptism of repentence and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and that the second supersedes the old. I agree, but think either type of baptism are public dedications and purifications.
::I also think "born of water" is the baptism of repentence. If it's not being used because it's superseded, the ''intentions'' are included in the new baptism in the form of a ''renunciation'' of a person's past misdeeds ("of the flesh"). This assumes being "born of the Spirit" is accepting the mantle of the Holy Spirit ("of the Spirit").
::I also think "born of water" is the baptism of repentence. If it's not being used because it's superseded, the ''intentions'' are ''included'' in the new baptism in the form of a ''renunciation'' of a person's past misdeeds ("of the flesh"). This assumes being "born of the Spirit" is accepting the mantle of the Holy Spirit ("of the Spirit").
::Finally I think one is "born" of water or the Spirit when one either determines to repent or to become a disciple of Christ, respectively, and that either baptism is a public ceremony of commitment of the dedication and purification of the "birth" that had already begun. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 02:43, 8 November 2019 (EST)
::Finally I think one is "born" of water or the Spirit when one either determines to repent or to become a disciple of Christ, respectively, and that either baptism is a public ceremony of commitment of the dedication and purification of the "birth" that had already begun. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 02:43, 8 November 2019 (EST)
:::Infant baptism? If infants can be dedicated to being raised in a certain religious order, why shouldn't they be able to be dedicated to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 03:13, 8 November 2019 (EST)
:::Infant baptism? If infants can be dedicated to being raised in a certain religious order, why shouldn't they be able to be dedicated to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 03:13, 8 November 2019 (EST)