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:::::::You're taking what is a primary Catholic doctrine, that those outside the Covenants of Abraham and David, can be ''grafted in'' to the family of God, and perverting it into a universal doctrine of Law, ''which is no gospel at all''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:00, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::::You're taking what is a primary Catholic doctrine, that those outside the Covenants of Abraham and David, can be ''grafted in'' to the family of God, and perverting it into a universal doctrine of Law, ''which is no gospel at all''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:00, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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:::::*You see that a man is '''justified''' by works and not by faith alone. James 2:24
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:::::*You see that a man is '''justified''' by '''works''' and '''not by faith alone.''' James 2:24
 
:::::::This has been debated to death. James says works are evidence of faith. Nowhere does James say you are '''''saved''''' by works. It's basically a discussion of the practical (James) versus the theoretical (Paul). James is rebuking carnal Christians - people who are Christian in name only - and have not fully put their trust in Christ.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:07, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::::This has been debated to death. James says works are evidence of faith. Nowhere does James say you are '''''saved''''' by works. It's basically a discussion of the practical (James) versus the theoretical (Paul). James is rebuking carnal Christians - people who are Christian in name only - and have not fully put their trust in Christ.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:07, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::*Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. Revelation 22:12. <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:17, 3 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::*Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense, to repay every one for what he has done. Revelation 22:12. <br> --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:17, 3 November 2019 (EST)
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:*For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are [[Schism|factious]] and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality. Romans 2:6-11
 
:*For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are [[Schism|factious]] and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality. Romans 2:6-11
 
:::*Go back and learn about grace and salvation '''before''' you preach on baptism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 14:59, 7 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::*Go back and learn about grace and salvation '''before''' you preach on baptism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 14:59, 7 November 2019 (EST)
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:*You see that a man is '''justified''' by works and not by faith alone. James 2:24
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:*You see that a man is '''justified''' by '''works''' and '''not by faith alone.''' James 2:24
 
:::*''justified''. Justification is neither grace nor salvation. It comes as a result of salvation and obtaining God's grace. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 14:59, 7 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::*''justified''. Justification is neither grace nor salvation. It comes as a result of salvation and obtaining God's grace. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 14:59, 7 November 2019 (EST)
 
:*For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then commit [[apostasy]], since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt. Hebrews 6:4-6
 
:*For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then commit [[apostasy]], since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt. Hebrews 6:4-6
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