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:<big>Dataclarifer: Answer the question I asked way long ago, which you seemed to answer affirmatively yet hedged a little bit later: Was the gospel preached to Israel in the wilderness? Your answer determines whether or not you reject the Word of God; if you say "No", all the crap you posted about rejecting the Word of God will come upon you (''per'' your own words). If you say "yes," we can move forward with this discussion.</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 01:44, 18 November 2019 (EST)
 
:<big>Dataclarifer: Answer the question I asked way long ago, which you seemed to answer affirmatively yet hedged a little bit later: Was the gospel preached to Israel in the wilderness? Your answer determines whether or not you reject the Word of God; if you say "No", all the crap you posted about rejecting the Word of God will come upon you (''per'' your own words). If you say "yes," we can move forward with this discussion.</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 01:44, 18 November 2019 (EST)
 
:For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved. You have to wait til you die (after you jump thru a bunch of hoops in the flesh) and face judgement. Evidently you haven't read ''who'' faces judgement, nor accepted the simple truth ''who'' is ''saved'' from judgement. Again, by admitting you face judgement, you condemn yourself.  
 
:For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved. You have to wait til you die (after you jump thru a bunch of hoops in the flesh) and face judgement. Evidently you haven't read ''who'' faces judgement, nor accepted the simple truth ''who'' is ''saved'' from judgement. Again, by admitting you face judgement, you condemn yourself.  
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:''There is therefore no condemnation to them that are in Christ''
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::''There is therefore no condemnation to them that are in Christ''
    
:Moving on. Why would somebody ''reject (or "neglect") so great a salvation?'' Perhaps to justify sin? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 02:06, 18 November 2019 (EST)
 
:Moving on. Why would somebody ''reject (or "neglect") so great a salvation?'' Perhaps to justify sin? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 02:06, 18 November 2019 (EST)
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::::Compare [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A1&version=NKJV Romans 8:1] with [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A4-10&version=NKJV 1 John 3:4-10].  
 
::::Compare [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A1&version=NKJV Romans 8:1] with [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A4-10&version=NKJV 1 John 3:4-10].  
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:"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (''Yet those Christians who were saved by faith, but afterward act unrighteously by freely practicing sin are condemned.'')
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::::"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (''Yet those Christians who were saved by faith, but afterward act unrighteously by freely practicing sin are condemned.'')
    
::::"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. '''Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.''' For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." (''boldface emphasis added'')
 
::::"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. '''Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.''' For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." (''boldface emphasis added'')
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::::"Do you not know that in a race all the runners contend, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. Every man striving for mastery exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable crown. Therefore, I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air; but I control my body and subdue it, '''lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.'''" [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+9%3A24-27&version=NKJV 1 Corinthians 9:24-27].<br>(See [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/9-27.htm multiple commentaries on 1 Corinthians 9:27].)
 
::::"Do you not know that in a race all the runners contend, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. Every man striving for mastery exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable crown. Therefore, I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air; but I control my body and subdue it, '''lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.'''" [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+9%3A24-27&version=NKJV 1 Corinthians 9:24-27].<br>(See [http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_corinthians/9-27.htm multiple commentaries on 1 Corinthians 9:27].)
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:--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:05, 19 November 2019 (EST)
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::--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 00:05, 19 November 2019 (EST)
    
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