| | ::You said—<br>''For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved. You have to wait til you die (after you jump thru a bunch of hoops in the flesh) and face judgement. Evidently you haven't read ''who'' faces judgement, nor accepted the simple truth ''who'' is ''saved'' from judgement. Again, by admitting you face judgement, you condemn yourself. <br> There is therefore no condemnation to them that are in Christ''. | | ::You said—<br>''For you, my friend, salvation is a real nail-biter - cause you don't know whether or not you are saved. You have to wait til you die (after you jump thru a bunch of hoops in the flesh) and face judgement. Evidently you haven't read ''who'' faces judgement, nor accepted the simple truth ''who'' is ''saved'' from judgement. Again, by admitting you face judgement, you condemn yourself. <br> There is therefore no condemnation to them that are in Christ''. |
| − | ::You cited the ''first part'' of Paul's Christian doctrine in Romans 8:1, but carefully omitted to include the second part of the verse, which is '''conditional: "''who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit'''''", the same Holy Spirit that is the divine Author of the Bible, "'''<big>ALL</big> scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for <big>reproof, for correction</big>...''', the same Holy Spirit who through Peter says, "'''Baptism now saves you'''". As he says elsewhere: "'''inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God ''and upon those who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus'''''", the same Jesus who said, "Except a man be born again by '''water and the Spirit''', he '''cannot''' enter the kingdom of God", who said, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and '''not do what I say'''?" | + | ::You cited the ''first part'' of Paul's Christian doctrine in Romans 8:1, but carefully omitted to include the second part of the verse, which is '''conditional: "''who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit'''''", the same Holy Spirit that is the divine Author of the Bible without any exception, for "'''<big>ALL</big> scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for <big>reproof, for correction</big>...''', the same Holy Spirit who through Peter says, "'''Baptism now saves you'''". As he says elsewhere: "'''inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God ''and upon those who do not obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus'''''", the same Jesus who said, "Except a man be born again by '''water and the Spirit''', he '''cannot''' enter the kingdom of God", who said, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord, and '''not do what I say'''?" |
| | ::Perhaps the Word of the Lord Himself will persuade you, as it finally persuaded me, that the Baptist doctrine of [[Eternal security (salvation)|eternal assurance]] is a dangerously [[Presumption#Presumption (sin)|presumptuous]] error (''especially when I'' also ''found out that it was founded by those who disobeyed those who were over them in the Lord'' Heb. 13:17, ''and went out from the church they had belonged to'' 1 John 2:18-19, ''and taught a doctrine different from the one they had originally received'' Gal. 1:6-9): | | ::Perhaps the Word of the Lord Himself will persuade you, as it finally persuaded me, that the Baptist doctrine of [[Eternal security (salvation)|eternal assurance]] is a dangerously [[Presumption#Presumption (sin)|presumptuous]] error (''especially when I'' also ''found out that it was founded by those who disobeyed those who were over them in the Lord'' Heb. 13:17, ''and went out from the church they had belonged to'' 1 John 2:18-19, ''and taught a doctrine different from the one they had originally received'' Gal. 1:6-9): |