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Talk:Infant baptism (view source)
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:::The unmerited salvation of Christ in baptism, and afterward in forgiveness by confession of our sins.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:32, 24 November 2019 (EST) <br> I will rephrase: <br> '''Grace''' is the unmerited salvation of Christ in baptism, and afterward the unmerited '''grace''' of salvation through forgiveness by confession of our sins. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:45, 24 November 2019 (EST) <br>Baptism cleanses from sin and saves us now. Ephesians 5:26-27; Acts 22:16; 1 Peter 3:21; John 3:3-5. And after Baptism, if we sin, we can [[Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation|confess our sins and be cleansed from all unrighteousness]]. 1 John 1:9; James 5:16. The Word of God. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:53, 24 November 2019 (EST)
:::The unmerited salvation of Christ in baptism, and afterward in forgiveness by confession of our sins.--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:32, 24 November 2019 (EST) <br> I will rephrase: <br> '''Grace''' is the unmerited salvation of Christ in baptism, and afterward the unmerited '''grace''' of salvation through forgiveness by confession of our sins. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:45, 24 November 2019 (EST) <br>Baptism cleanses from sin and saves us now. Ephesians 5:26-27; Acts 22:16; 1 Peter 3:21; John 3:3-5. And after Baptism, if we sin, we can [[Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation|confess our sins and be cleansed from all unrighteousness]]. 1 John 1:9; James 5:16. The Word of God. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:53, 24 November 2019 (EST)
::::Ok good. Let's zero in on this right here: ''First clean the inside of the cup and the plate'', I assume refers to confession and repentance, would you agree? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 15:00, 24 November 2019 (EST)
::::Ok good. Let's zero in on this right here: ''First clean the inside of the cup and the plate'', I assume refers to confession and repentance, would you agree? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 15:00, 24 November 2019 (EST)
:::[Parenthetical Not to derail a good ongoing discussion, which I hope you answer above, but let expound momentarily: while ''repentance'' is a change of heart or change of mind, it cannot remind in your head, It must be spoken. Sin must be admitted by the issue of your mouth. Catholic confession recognized this loooong before Sigmund Freud ever admired the the psychological wellbeing that comes from it.]
:::::[http://biblehub.com/greek/5485.htm "Grace" χάρις] in the New Testament is the ''gracious gift of God''—''gratifying graciousness'': favor, the divine influence upon the heart (even of an infant), and its reflection in the life. The unmerited gift of salvation in Christ by his blood poured out upon us through the water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit, because "This is he that came by '''water and blood''', ''even'' Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by '''water and blood'''. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth." That is why Baptism cleanses from sin and saves us now. Ephesians 5:26-27; Acts 22:16; 1 Peter 3:21; John 3:3-5. And after Baptism, if we sin, we can [[Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation|confess our sins and be cleansed from all unrighteousness]]. 1 John 1:9; James 5:16. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 15:07, 24 November 2019 (EST)
:::::[http://biblehub.com/greek/5485.htm "Grace" χάρις] in the New Testament is the ''gracious gift of God''—''gratifying graciousness'': favor, the divine influence upon the heart (even of an infant), and its reflection in the life. The unmerited gift of salvation in Christ by his blood poured out upon us through the water-washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit, because "This is he that came by '''water and blood''', ''even'' Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by '''water and blood'''. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth." That is why Baptism cleanses from sin and saves us now. Ephesians 5:26-27; Acts 22:16; 1 Peter 3:21; John 3:3-5. And after Baptism, if we sin, we can [[Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation|confess our sins and be cleansed from all unrighteousness]]. 1 John 1:9; James 5:16. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 15:07, 24 November 2019 (EST)