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:::Dataclarifier is hardly an expert on scripture, as has been aptly demonstrated across the three pages he spams. He can't answer the most rudimentary questions of scripture. When asked, "What is salvation?", he claim's "baptism is salvation." When asked, "What is grace?", he claims "baptism is an 'act of grace." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:00, 27 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::Dataclarifier is hardly an expert on scripture, as has been aptly demonstrated across the three pages he spams. He can't answer the most rudimentary questions of scripture. When asked, "What is salvation?", he claim's "baptism is salvation." When asked, "What is grace?", he claims "baptism is an 'act of grace." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:00, 27 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::SHobson's declaration that "Catholics do think [baptism] is necessary to get to Heaven as one of their 7 Sacraments", doesn't follow from even the most obvious evidence.  Matrimony is one of the seven sacraments.  So being married is "necessary to get to heaven"? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 01:34, 28 November 2019 (EST)
 
::::SHobson's declaration that "Catholics do think [baptism] is necessary to get to Heaven as one of their 7 Sacraments", doesn't follow from even the most obvious evidence.  Matrimony is one of the seven sacraments.  So being married is "necessary to get to heaven"? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 01:34, 28 November 2019 (EST)
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:::::'''Salvation [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p7.htm]. Grace [http://scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a2.htm]. Abundant scripture provided.''' There it is. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:39, 28 November 2019 (EST)
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:::::'''Salvation [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a1.htm]. Grace [http://scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a2.htm]. Abundant scripture provided.''' There it is. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:39, 28 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::'''Topical Bible: Salvation [https://biblehub.com/topical/s/salvation.htm] Grace [https://biblehub.com/topical/g/grace.htm]'''. There it is. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:48, 28 November 2019 (EST)
 
:::::'''Topical Bible: Salvation [https://biblehub.com/topical/s/salvation.htm] Grace [https://biblehub.com/topical/g/grace.htm]'''. There it is. --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 01:48, 28 November 2019 (EST)
 
::Is there a difference between "salvation" and "redemption"?  Or are they same and only seem different depending on the different contexts in which they happen to appear? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 01:45, 28 November 2019 (EST)
 
::Is there a difference between "salvation" and "redemption"?  Or are they same and only seem different depending on the different contexts in which they happen to appear? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 01:45, 28 November 2019 (EST)
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