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:::::::St. Paul has an even better answer:<br>"after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in <big>well-doing</big> seek for glory and honour and immortality, <big>eternal life</big>; But unto them that are contentious, and do not <big>obey</big> the <big>truth</big>, but obey unrighteousness, <big>indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon <big>every</big> soul that doeth evil</big>, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to <big>every</big> man that <big>worketh good</big>, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:5-11.<br>This includes the <big>truth</big> that "Except a man be born again by water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:3-5. "baptism doth also now save us". 1 Peter 3:21.<br>It's very simple: every newborn, infant, child in arms that is baptized is saved: every older child and adult who is baptized and continues in righteousness pleasing to God is saved: as for those who are baptized "the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin", and "if we <big>confess</big> our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us ''our'' sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:7, 9.<br>--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 11:27, 28 November 2019 (EST)
:::::::St. Paul has an even better answer:<br>"after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in <big>well-doing</big> seek for glory and honour and immortality, <big>eternal life</big>; But unto them that are contentious, and do not <big>obey</big> the <big>truth</big>, but obey unrighteousness, <big>indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon <big>every</big> soul that doeth evil</big>, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to <big>every</big> man that <big>worketh good</big>, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:5-11.<br>This includes the <big>truth</big> that "Except a man be born again by water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:3-5. "baptism doth also now save us". 1 Peter 3:21.<br>It's very simple: every newborn, infant, child in arms that is baptized is saved: every older child and adult who is baptized and continues in righteousness pleasing to God is saved: as for those who are baptized "the blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin", and "if we <big>confess</big> our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us ''our'' sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:7, 9.<br>--[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 11:27, 28 November 2019 (EST)
::::::::Absolutely pointless. Answer a simple question: Whom was Jesus speaking to, and Why? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 11:54, 28 November 2019 (EST)
::::::::Absolutely pointless. Answer a simple question: Whom was Jesus speaking to, and Why? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 11:54, 28 November 2019 (EST)
Okay oaky oaky, I am going to say it. And I can say this, because (A) I have a Roman Catholic background, (B) I've spent nearly a lifetime studying this question, and (C) I've prayed with God over it many times.
Your utter ignorance of the Bible, and willingness to misuse it and misquote it, explains why most hardcore Nazis of the holocaust era came from Roman Catholic backgrounds and not Protestant. It is the net result of replacing the Word of God with doctrines of men, a focus on the fleshly and natural interpretation, and ignorance of spiritual truth. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 12:30, 28 November 2019 (EST)