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Line 90: − − [http://www.biblequery.org/Doctrine/LoseSalvationOrNot/DonahueMorrisonAffirmative1.htm Patrick Donahue’s First Affirmative Against "Once Saved Always Saved" (biblequery.org)] − :“Galatians 5:4 reads, "Ye are severed from Christ, ye who would be justified by the law; ye are fallen away from grace" (ASV). The standard Baptist position is a Christian cannot fall from grace, but this verse points out specifically that it is possible. First I suggest that this verse has to be talking about Christians: − ::you can’t be severed from something (Christ) that you were never connected to <br> you can’t fall from a tree (grace) that you weren’t in to start with ” − :(''The author cites biblical texts for his argument in the following sequence:'' Galatians 1:2, 11; 3:15; 4:12, 31; 5:11, 13; 6:1, 18; 3:26; Revelation 3:5; 20:15; 21:27; James 5:19-20; 1:16, 19; 2:1-2; 3:1; 5:7, 19-20; 1 Corinthians 9:25-27; 8:11; Matthew 10:28; 18:11; John 3:16; 2 Thessalonians 2:10; 2 Peter 3:9; 2:20-22; 1:9-11; Hebrews 3:6, 12, 14; John 3:36b; 15:2, 6; Hebrews 10:26-27; Acts 8:12-13, 22-23; 1 John 1:9; Romans 6:23; Revelation 14:13; 21:8; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; Revelation 2:9-10; 1 John 1:9.) − :“There is overwhelming, clear scriptural evidence. It is possible for a genuine Christian to lose their salvation. Indeed, a child of God can be disinherited (Numbers 14:12). Live your life with that in mind.” − − See [[Eternal security (salvation)]]
revision - moved Patrick Donahue article link to end of section Tradition in the New Testament as more relevant there after statement so it is possible for a baptized Christian to fall away from salvation by afterward despising as profane the blood..."
On the pretext of this scriptural basis, long-held, centuries-old, "sacred Christian traditions" are read into scripture, as in interpreting Paul's interpretation of the circumcision of infants as a ''[[Typology|type]]'' of infant baptism in Colossians 2:8-15 being the direct ''antitype'' fulfillment of the covenant with God in Christ, "putting on Christ", and "belonging to Him", as "one body with Him" (Galatians 3:7, 29; 1 Corinthians 3:23; 12:12-14, 20, 27; Romans 12:4-5). The covenant of Abraham was a covenant with God involving the minimal shedding of human blood by the circumcision of the foreskin of the male child, "My covenant" (Genesis 17:9, 14), not as a [[sign]] that they belonged to the people called the Jews, a sign that they ethnically and racially belonged to the nation Israel, but as a sign that they belonged to God, with all the attendant duties and promised blessings for obedience. By this interpretation of the meaning of circumcision in Colossians 2:8-15 baptism is a sign of the covenant with God in the blood of Christ Jesus His Son, and that those who have been baptized into Christ belong to Christ by a covenant of blood, as Christ belongs to God (1 Corinthians 3:23; Acts 20:28; Titus 3:4-7; Hebrews 10:28-29; Ephesians 2:10). As it was possible for a circumcised Jew to break the Abrahamic covenant of circumcision by disobedient sin, so it is possible for a baptized Christian to fall away from salvation by afterward despising as profane the blood of Christ by which he was sanctified (Hebrews 6:4-12; Romans 2:4-11).
On the pretext of this scriptural basis, long-held, centuries-old, "sacred Christian traditions" are read into scripture, as in interpreting Paul's interpretation of the circumcision of infants as a ''[[Typology|type]]'' of infant baptism in Colossians 2:8-15 being the direct ''antitype'' fulfillment of the covenant with God in Christ, "putting on Christ", and "belonging to Him", as "one body with Him" (Galatians 3:7, 29; 1 Corinthians 3:23; 12:12-14, 20, 27; Romans 12:4-5). The covenant of Abraham was a covenant with God involving the minimal shedding of human blood by the circumcision of the foreskin of the male child, "My covenant" (Genesis 17:9, 14), not as a [[sign]] that they belonged to the people called the Jews, a sign that they ethnically and racially belonged to the nation Israel, but as a sign that they belonged to God, with all the attendant duties and promised blessings for obedience. By this interpretation of the meaning of circumcision in Colossians 2:8-15 baptism is a sign of the covenant with God in the blood of Christ Jesus His Son, and that those who have been baptized into Christ belong to Christ by a covenant of blood, as Christ belongs to God (1 Corinthians 3:23; Acts 20:28; Titus 3:4-7; Hebrews 10:28-29; Ephesians 2:10). As it was possible for a circumcised Jew to break the Abrahamic covenant of circumcision by disobedient sin, so it is possible for a baptized Christian to fall away from salvation by afterward despising as profane the blood of Christ by which he was sanctified (Hebrews 6:4-12; Romans 2:4-11).
[http://www.biblequery.org/Doctrine/LoseSalvationOrNot/DonahueMorrisonAffirmative1.htm Patrick Donahue’s First Affirmative Against "Once Saved Always Saved" (biblequery.org)]
:“Galatians 5:4 reads, "Ye are severed from Christ, ye who would be justified by the law; ye are fallen away from grace" (ASV). The standard Baptist position is a Christian cannot fall from grace, but this verse points out specifically that it is possible. First I suggest that this verse has to be talking about Christians:
::you can’t be severed from something (Christ) that you were never connected to <br> you can’t fall from a tree (grace) that you weren’t in to start with ”
:(''The author cites biblical texts for his argument in the following sequence:'' Galatians 1:2, 11; 3:15; 4:12, 31; 5:11, 13; 6:1, 18; 3:26; Revelation 3:5; 20:15; 21:27; James 5:19-20; 1:16, 19; 2:1-2; 3:1; 5:7, 19-20; 1 Corinthians 9:25-27; 8:11; Matthew 10:28; 18:11; John 3:16; 2 Thessalonians 2:10; 2 Peter 3:9; 2:20-22; 1:9-11; Hebrews 3:6, 12, 14; John 3:36b; 15:2, 6; Hebrews 10:26-27; Acts 8:12-13, 22-23; 1 John 1:9; Romans 6:23; Revelation 14:13; 21:8; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; Revelation 2:9-10; 1 John 1:9.)
:“There is overwhelming, clear scriptural evidence. It is possible for a genuine Christian to lose their salvation. Indeed, a child of God can be disinherited (Numbers 14:12). Live your life with that in mind.”
See [[Eternal security (salvation)]]
=== Circumcision and Baptism ===
=== Circumcision and Baptism ===
[https://www.defendingthebride.com/sc/baptism.html Baptism (defendingthebride.com)]
[https://www.defendingthebride.com/sc/baptism.html Baptism (defendingthebride.com)]
:CIRCUMCISION AND BAPTISM <br> The method of entry into the old covenant was circumcision (Genesis l7). The “whole household” was circumcised (Genesis 17:27) because the Old Covenant included infants (Genesis 21:4). In the new covenant, baptism replaces circumcision (Colossians 2:11-12). Galatians 3:27 says, “We were baptized into Christ” (Cf. 1 Corinthians 12:13). The New Covenant is greater than the Old Covenant. Since the Old Covenant included infants, the Jews would assume that the New Covenant would also. The Bible doesn’t specifically mention infant baptism because it was understood and assumed to include them.
:CIRCUMCISION AND BAPTISM <br> The method of entry into the old covenant was circumcision (Genesis l7). The “whole household” was circumcised (Genesis 17:27) because the Old Covenant included infants (Genesis 21:4). In the new covenant, baptism replaces circumcision (Colossians 2:11-12). Galatians 3:27 says, “We were baptized into Christ” (Cf. 1 Corinthians 12:13). The New Covenant is greater than the Old Covenant. Since the Old Covenant included infants, the Jews would assume that the New Covenant would also. The Bible doesn’t specifically mention infant baptism because it was understood and assumed to include them.
== Protestant theological arguments against infant baptism ==
== Protestant theological arguments against infant baptism ==