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I suggest modifying it to "'''drop in its fertility rate similar to Europe''"
I suggest modifying it to "'''drop in its fertility rate similar to Europe''"
The mass shooting in Germany yesterday is attributed to a "right wing terrorist" motivated by "The Great Replacement conspiracy theory", according to German state TV. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pU9ALiHikA] ''The Great Replacement'' is the title of the [[New Zealand mosque shooting]] manifesto; "Jews will not replace us" was chanted by Charlottesville neo-nazis. We shouldn't use this term, "replacement". There are other ways to communicate the consequences of a drop in fertility. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 07:28, 21 February 2020 (EST)
The mass shooting in Germany yesterday is attributed to a "right wing terrorist" motivated by "The Great Replacement conspiracy theory", according to German state TV. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pU9ALiHikA] ''The Great Replacement'' is the title of the [[New Zealand mosque shooting]] manifesto; "Jews will not replace us" was chanted by Charlottesville neo-nazis. We shouldn't use this term, "replacement". There are other ways to communicate the consequences of a drop in fertility. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 07:28, 21 February 2020 (EST)
== Sanders wins New Hampshire ==
Before Iowa, just a couple of weeks back, Joe Biden was the Democratic frontrunner. In New Hampshire, Electable Joe came in fifth. Things didn't go much better for Warren, also a former frontrunner. She came in fourth. Together, the media's two favorite candidates got less than 18 percent of the vote. Is everyone looking forward to the coming battle between Bernie Sanders and Michael Bloomberg for the soul of the Democratic Party? It's hard to see either one as a threat to Trump. This has got to be the party's worst week since Appomattox. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 05:49, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:[[Amy Klobuchar]] is a long shot, but she still may win the Democratic presidential nomination. It may depend on Michael Bloomberg recognizing he isn't going to get enough racial minority support to win in 2020 and dropping out. It comes down to intelligence vs. ego with Michael Bloomberg. If intelligence prevails, he will drop out. Personally, I think Bloomsberg's ego is going to win this fight and he will not drop out soon. By the time he drops out, he will have created more dissension in an already divided party.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:11, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::[[Pete Buttigieg]] did well. Lots of [[Fox News Channel]] types are saying he can't win, but many of them said the same thing about [[Barack Obama]] in 2008.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:13, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:::Trump will put pressure on Fox News and they will start being attack dogs who attack Pete Buttigieg. Even his fellow homosexuals doubt Buttigieg can win. ''Los Angeles Times'': Gay voters take pride in Pete Buttigieg’s candidacy, but many question whether he can win.[https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-election-buttigieg-gay-voters-lgbt-20190708-story.html]
:::On top of this, while wimpy McCain and wimpy Romney did not attack Obama's leftist past, Trump is not going to be reluctant in pointing out how left leaning Pete Buttigieg is.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:24, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::::''Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;'' - Is 54:2.
::::The Socialist take over of the DNC is complete. Time for the GOP to welcome Democrat refugees with a open arms. This change is permanent. Democrats must rely on the votes of dead people, illegal immigrants, and felons. Republicans must learn to form coalitions with people they never imagined they would. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 12:38, 12 February 2020 (EST)
Here is the difficult part. If Trump attacks an upcoming opponent, it could stoke Democratic support for the opponent and Trump's team may recognize this. Maybe the reason why [[Amy Klobuchar]] doesn't have a Trump nickname yet is because she is the biggest threat. But the lack of a Trump nickname for Klobuchar is probably because he doesn't see her as a threat yet. In addition, Trump doesn't want to get the suburban women mad at him. Also, Klobuchar comes across nice with her "[http://www.thrivemnnice.com/home/NiceTips/what-is-mn-nice Minnesota niceness]", so voters could see a Trump attack against her as being akin to a Rottweiler attacking a Yorkshire Terrier. Also, Klobuchar is more feminine than Warren so attacking her is going to get more blowback. Despite the growth of feminism in the USA, people still don't like men attacking women.
Also, if Trump says nice things about a potential opponent, this could cause Democrats to dislike that person.
This is definitely 3D political chess![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:RobS, the socialist takeover of the Democratic Party is not permanent. Losing election after election has a sobering effect on political parties.
:The long term solution in defeating socialism in the USA is to offer more school/education choice and starve public schools and universities of cash. The root cause of socialism in the USA is the educational system. The Trump administration will need political will and one more conservative SCOTUS judge in order to make big changes in the educational system.
:In addition, in order to reduce socialism in the USA, the Trump administration should increase the ease of doing business in the USA so there is more small business growth.
:The 2007/2008 financial crises accelerated the growth of socialism in the USA. The USA needs to have people be better able to stand on their own two feet and have more opportunity. More school choice would raise the quality of education and help people become more independent. So would making it easier for people to start businesses. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg6bVHd8N7s Snow woman]. Klobuchar looks like a real heavyweight threat, even as VP. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:21, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:::I think Amy Klobuchar's Minnesota accent is too thick for her to win the Democratic primary. [[Walter Mondale]] did not have such a thick Minnesota accent. In addition, she is more feminine than Hillary/Warren and I don't think America is ready for a feminine president. Also, the Democrats want a fighter in the ring with "Trump the political brawler" and she doesn't fit the bill.
:::But after all is said and done, Klobuchar is the most likeable Democratic candidate and likeability is important in politics. I think Klobuchar is the biggest threat right now because Michael Bloomberg's NYC police stop and frisk policy and his quotes about it are coming out. And Bloomberg can't win without racial minority support.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:32, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::::Amy Klobuchar being the biggest threat to Donald Trump = Trumpslide 2020.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:33, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::Larry Nichols explains the difficulty in running against Commucrats: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB0WOezfDK0]
{{quotebox|You've got one candidate saying, "If you vote for me I'm gonna give you $5,000 reparation or $25,000 for a family of four". Now if you're a black person and you say, "I don't believe they really can do that. It doesn't make sense, that they can do that. But you know what, I gotta see. You know, it's a shot. We gotta take that." $25,000 can save some people's lives, and you have got to at least try it.
Same thing with the colleges. You've got families that have college-age students going into school running up huge debts or the families having to pay huge amounts of money for them to go to college. Yeah, and a candidate is sitting there saying "if you vote for me I want to do away with all college cost". It's all three. Yeah. You know, if you're in that category, if somebody has kids going to college, yeah. You almost hope to see if they'll do it.
So you have no fault then. Look at the other category. If you're one of the people that's sitting there with a $1500 or fifty to a hundred thousand dollar college loan debt, and somebody says, "I want to wipe it out", well once again you may not believe it, you may not think it's true, but you're boxed in because you kind of got to see, you know, it's worth a shot.}}
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:39, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:::I realize it is harder to fight against socialists post 2007/2008 financial crises, but in some ways it is easier. Right-wing populism is growing in Europe/USA/Latin America/world. There has been more failures of big government such as France, Venezuela, etc.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:45, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::::Another reason it is harder to promote socialism now is that trust in media is lower now.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:46, 12 February 2020 (EST)
Furthermore, now that Trump is making NATO nations pay more for their defense, it will be harder for center-left European governments to provide quality healthcare - especially with aging populations.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:51, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:My point is, the same tired old arguments of ''free stuff v. individual responsibility'' isn't the message centrists and center-left Democrats are looking for. We need to be accommodating. Even Chris Matthews expressed fear of violence and fear for his life in the face of Bernie's fascist brigades. We need to adapt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:59, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:Our message can be simple: confidence and reality. Save the ideological stuff for later. We need to exude confidence in the future. It is the real hope fearful people are looking for. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 14:04, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::Leadership (which includes having confidence and showing ''bona fide'' concern for your followers) and quality education are important in order to defeat socialism.
::"''Ethos'', ''Pathos'', and ''Logos'' are modes of persuasion used to convince audiences. They are also referred to as the three artistic proofs (Aristotle coined the terms), and are all represented by Greek words... ''Ethos'' or the ethical appeal, means to convince an audience of the author’s credibility or character... ''Pathos'' or the emotional appeal, means to persuade an audience by appealing to their emotions... ''Logos'' or the appeal to logic, means to convince an audience by use of logic or reason."[https://pathosethoslogos.com/]
::In order to convince people socialism is wrongheaded, using ''ethos'', ''pathos'' and ''logos'' are all important. And part of employing ''ethos'' to argue against socialism is telling people to accept responsibility for their lives.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:14, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:::We're talking to each other. We need to be talking to centrist Democrats. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 14:26, 12 February 2020 (EST)
::::Center-left Democrats are screwed at the presidential level in 2020 and probably 2024.
::::AOC has a big social media presence and it will take awhile for the educational system to be reformed. Center-left Democrats should vote for conservative Republicans if they want more money in the pocketbook. And if they don't want social anarchy that doesn't even recognize that gender is not merely a social construct, but has a strong biological basis. And of course, [[desecularization]] and right-wing populism are very strong trends right now (see: [[Decline of the secular left]]).
::::Resistance is futile. Trade in your weak, center-left pony for a strong, right-wing, Christian horse![[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:::::Rumor is AOC faces a tough primary challenge (she won with total of 12,000 primary votes cast in district of 700,000) and has her eye on Schumer's Senate seat. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup>
::::::Donald Trump repeated the Senate rumor, so it's getting a lot of circulation.
::::::In 2019 only 10% of Democrats believed the economy was getting better. That suggests to me they are not good listeners to political arguments, and that the attitude of Democrats in Congress at the State of the Union are not unique. But the Democrats in Congress are in a position to know better, which, together with the impeachment remarks I saw, suggests to me that they are filled with lies.
::::::As an aside, I understand that Nancy Pelosi didn't introduce the president at the State of the Union with customary complementary words in addition to tearing up his speech. That doesn't bother me. When the Executive branch and the Legislative branch were chummy, it gave us globalism.
::::::People like Chris Matthews and Ruth Bader Ginsburg brought the socialist/communist Frankenstein into being to serve as leverage on the far left for their side (where a little bit of force in numbers causes a big torque), got to depend on it, it grew, and now it is threatening them. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 18:08, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:::::::White liberal socialists are learning the same thing blacks already know - Democrats give lip service to concerns, as long as they don't get too uppity and want change. Personally, I find the most despicable thing about this monster the Democrat establishment created is, they always knew the violent nature of the movement and that moderate Democrats were playing with dynamite by courting communist voters. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:59, 12 February 2020 (EST)
The [[Brexit]] political wave helped sweep Donald Trump into office. The next French and German national elections which will happen in 2017/2022 will move the political spectrum in the Western World to the right. [[Mike Pence]]/Donald Trump Jr. will ride these French/German political waves into the White House in 2024! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMChBJZUDK8 Let's go surfin' now. Everybody's learning how. Come on and safari with me!][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:22, 12 February 2020 (EST)
:Jan 30:—
::Every element of establishment power — from the Bank of England to the BBC, from the universities to the Church of England, from the civil service to the world of high finance — mobilized in the effort to kill Brexit.
::They failed.
::—@Sohrab Ahmari
:[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 08:00, 13 February 2020 (EST)
===MPR and Klobzilla ===
We need to begin attaching to Bernie and his fascist supporters, effective immediately, at every opportunity to link Bernie and his violent supporters to Antifa, [[Bernie Bros]], and the unhinged violence caused by Sanders and his [[brownshirt]] supporters over the past 3 years.
Also, wee should make light of Bloomberg's racist views and agenda at every opportunity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 01:02, 13 February 2020 (EST)
:Feb 12:—
::"Does anyone with a functioning frontal lobe disagree with this? By pursuing the wacky idea of having cops frisk kids in high-crime areas for minor offenses like turnstile jumping, Mayor Rudy Giuliani cut the murder rate from more than 2,000 per year to about 600. No one thought it could possibly go any lower -- and then Bloomberg got murders down to an unfathomable 300 or so per year.
::"Giuliani and Bloomberg did more for young minorities than all living Democrats combined. In New York City alone, at least 20,000 more black men are alive today than would be under the genius crime-fighting ideas of prior administrations (and ''The New York Times'')."
::—Ann Coulter
:[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 03:38, 13 February 2020 (EST)
:I have to admit I'm a little depressed that Klobzilla was too big even for Talk:Main Page. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 07:01, 13 February 2020 (EST)
::C'mon now. We know this game. Democrats play stupid and ignorant, then suddenly they are sharp as a tack with facts. It doesn't matter. We're going forward with the plan. Trust the plan. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 11:06, 13 February 2020 (EST)
:::This has to be your most cryptic reply yet. Then again I don't rely on ''Rolling Stone'' magazine or website (MPR) to choose crime-fighting methods. We'd still be wondering what to do if it were up to them. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 18:08, 13 February 2020 (EST)
::::We'll see who carries New York's electoral votes in a Trump/Bloomberg matchup, Bloomberg who tossed Blacks in jail in a mass incarceration round up, or Trump who bailed them out with the First Step Act. Either way, it is the Republicans (Trump and Bloomberg) who liberated Blacks from the [[Democrat plantation]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:40, 13 February 2020 (EST)
:::You said it was ''Biden'' who did that. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 20:53, 13 February 2020 (EST)
::::Bloomberg stopped and frisked 500,000 minorities before it was ruled unconstitutional, and after Rudy only did 92,000 over the same amount of time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:56, 13 February 2020 (EST)
:::::I saw statistics that show that 95% of the gun perps and victims ''were'' minorities. Nationwide John Lott says it's 59%. I understand stop, question and frisk got shortened to stop and frisk, and some instances became unconstitutional [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 02:02, 14 February 2020 (EST)
::::::Stop and frisk was an updated form of racial profiling. It was justified (as Bloomberg says) by disproportionately deploying police resources in "high crime neighborhoods", i.e. "minority neighborhoods." SCOTUS ruled a long time ago frisking without probable cause is ok as an "officer safety issue". 'Stopping' without probable cause can be a violation of a person's right to 'pursue happiness'. 'Questioning' is an investigation which requires probable cause. Most arrests resulted in marijuana charges, which was the point Louis Farrakhan made in his famous [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu41CPQw0hg "That's a wicked woman" comment] (precursor of Trump's "nasty woman"); ReasonTV posted yesterday the point that [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLIGLqL0II&t=73s Bloomberg once said he "enjoyed" marijuana,] yet arrested hundreds of thousands of poor minority kids for possession of a blunt - which is exactly the same point Tulsi Gabbard made that destroyed Kamala Harris's campaign. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:02, 14 February 2020 (EST)
[[File:Maxresdefault (2).jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|[[Amy Klobuchar|Klobzilla]] has 7 delegates. Joe Biden merely has 6 delegates. Andrew Yang dropped out of the race. Senator Michael Bennet dropped out. Joe Walsh dropped out. John Delaney dropped out. Senator [[Cory Booker]] dropped out. Marianne Williamson dropped out. Julián Castro dropped out. Senator [[Kamala Harris]] dropped out. Governor Steve Bullock dropped out.
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She's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered Minnesotan you ever set eyes on! Former aides have called Klobzilla "dehumanizing" - not merely "demanding."[https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/21/worst-bosses-congress-476729] She's got huge, sharp... She can leap about. Look at the bones of her political adversaries!
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I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn't you? Oh, she's just a harmless little Minnesotan, isn't she? Well, it's always the same. I always tell them.]]
::::::Stop and frisk could have worked if arrests were limited to seizure of illegal guns, as Giuliani used it; Bloomberg expanded it to arrests for possession of a blunt. Due to the marginal legal basis of the policy, officers often make an arrest for whatever they can to CYA to protect themselves from charges of violating due process and civil rights. It's not surprising courts finally tossed it out. However, it still can be practiced in neighborhoods, say on a street corner for instance, where police receive an excessive number of complains about dope trafficking cause that in itself can create probable cause.
::::::OTOH as well, if New York did not have such stringent gun control laws, and the 2nd Amendment were respected, Stop and frisk would not be much of a concern. Here, as usual, you have another great example of Democrats "voting against their own interests". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 09:12, 14 February 2020 (EST)
:::I haven't heard too much talk about the "superdelegates" this nomination season. So much so I have to ask myself whether they exist anymore. They would have the choice of giving Bernie Sanders the thumbs up or the thumbs down for the nomination if he maintains a lead with a rate of less than about 50% of the available delegates. Maybe it's being kept hush-hush so the party elites can snipe Bernie and maintain the element of surprise against the resulting angry Democratic nomination voters as they work to subdue them. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 21:13, 13 February 2020 (EST)
::::The DNC which changed the rules to let [[Mini Mike]] in, now is discussing changing the rules on Superdelegates. As of now, Superdelegates vote on the second round (there hasn't been a second round in either party since 1952). 20% of Superdelegates can swing a convention for a candidate with a plurality (actually, even a majority) of the popular vote in primaries, if Superdelegates are allowed to vote in the first round to avoid the embarrassment of an open convention. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 23:56, 13 February 2020 (EST)
:::::Thank you. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 02:02, 14 February 2020 (EST)
:::Like George McGovern, our country needs to ''decisively reject'' the Bernie Sanderses of the world. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 23:22, 13 February 2020 (EST)
::[[Dick Morris]] attributes Klobzilla's success to women voters fleeing Biden and Warren. This is an interesting new phenomenon. In an age of feminism, gay marriage, homosexual rights, and the [[War on Family]], it's the first time women voted ''en bloc'' for a woman ''because'' she is a woman - something Hillary only dreamed of - ''without'' that woman explicitly running on an anti-family & feminist platform. It's basically a default anti-male protest vote. Even after Klobzilla drops out, this unorganized voting bloc and its motivations remain. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 11:05, 15 February 2020 (EST)
===Bannon is a CP reader===
Bannon quotes directly from CP's Bloomberg entry: "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKFKz1c11SU : Bloomberg has a personal vendetta against Trump]"; [[United_States_presidential_election,_2020#Blacks_need_not_apply|"personal vendetta" was uncited]] cause its my original research. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 16:22, 16 February 2020 (EST)
::Gosh, you're right. The Youtube video does indeed contain the sentence "Bloomberg has a personal vendetta against Trump". That sentence also gets 5.4 million Google hits. Are you sure your article was the one being cited? [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 00:38, 17 February 2020 (EST)
:::Sam, you've got to put it in quotes. When you do that, it's only 44. Did you see I skipped the lecture? Wasn't that nice of me? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Monday, 06:59, 17 February 2020 (EST)
::::(EC) I did put it in quotes. When I do the query now, in quotes, I get over 6 million hits. That must be an extremely popular talk page. Did you perhaps have your browser set to exclude Commie sites? [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:27, 17 February 2020 (EST)
::::By "skipped the lecture" did you mean you refrained from pointing out my stupidity and intellectual ineptness? Yes, I saw that, and I appreciate it. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:29, 17 February 2020 (EST)
:::::I don't think I've ''ever'' used such a global negative about your thinking skills; however, I recently mentioned, as is true sometimes, in some cases, you can do better. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Monday, 11:42, 17 February 2020 (EST)
::::::Vargas, my friend, I was being playful. In nearly all of my talk page interactions with you, I assume playfulness on both sides. (The same is true of my other friend Cons.) If there was some kind of serious "lecture", exhorting me to do better in my interactions on this site, I'd like to hear it. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 19:33, 17 February 2020 (EST)
::::My OR is somewhere in the diffs. This illustrates the role of CP; while national conserv's may not link directly, they get good ideas and rhetoric under free license that they can claim as their own. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 13:04, 17 February 2020 (EST)
:::::It's up to 6.33 million now. That's a heck of a lot of people getting "good ideas and rhetoric" from you. Keep up the good work. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 19:33, 17 February 2020 (EST)
::::::Steve Bannon is a world-historical figure. This is a big deal. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Monday, 19:58, 17 February 2020 (EST)
:::::::I'm just an unsung hero of the anti-Bloomberg revolution. Democrats one day will thank me for this. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 20:26, 17 February 2020 (EST)
::::::::Oh, yeah, I'm an unsung hero too. But Conservative is not a hero. He's an unsung person. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:15, 19 February 2020 (EST)
Sometimes to get things done it is better to be unsung. Many right-wingers/conservatives crave the limelight and don't work well with others. And it is hard to get things done by yourself. Anne Coulter said Stephen Miller has thwarted Donald Trump in getting better immigration policies done because he wants to be given all the credit himself. Ronald Reagan said, "It is amazing what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit".
And let's not forget what the strategist [[Sun Tzu]] said. ""Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate." - [[Sun Tzu]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:26, 20 February 2020 (EST)
:Each situation is different. Donald Trump takes a lot of action and does things to get attention to "flood the zone" because opposing journalists have a hard time following more than one shiny ball at once. So it is harder for them to really focus on one thing and get traction. And then add to the mix that Trump trolls journalist/liberals/leftists to further flood the zone. "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu.
:Again each situation calls for different strategies/tactics. "Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances." - Sun Tzu. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:32, 20 February 2020 (EST)
::How about a thank you for the compliment? It's not as if I insecurely used the fancy title on myself, drained it of its poetry and then condescendingly pretended I "fixed" it so it could be applied to you too! Some people. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Thursday, 15:51, 20 February 2020 (EST)
:::*''Many right-wingers/conservatives crave the limelight and don't work well with others'' - in addition to black and Hispanic males ages 16-25 as well. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 00:11, 24 February 2020 (EST)
==The cold hard facts==
==The cold hard facts==