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→Advice to Young Earth Creationists: Response to Middle Man
[[User:MiddleMan|MiddleMan]]
[[User:MiddleMan|MiddleMan]]
What I have seen too many times is evolutionary baseed information being removed because it isn't "factual" and at the same time the YEC sections getting bigger and bigger. As far as I know YEC isn't a "fact" either, but I rarely see any of that stuff being edited out.[[User:Prof0705|Prof0705]] 12:16, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
:What I have seen too many times is evolutionary baseed information being removed because it isn't "factual" and at the same time the YEC sections getting bigger and bigger. As far as I know YEC isn't a "fact" either, but I rarely see any of that stuff being edited out.[[User:Prof0705|Prof0705]] 12:16, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
::There are a number of articles with creationist views that I'm not happy with, but would have a fight on my hands if I tried altering them, so I'm not going to defend everything, but parts of your message still warrants a response.
::"''You yourself linked to Dr. John Hartnett once, who actually has a Ph. D''". As do lots of creationists. This sort of anti-creationist loaded language is part of the problem.
::Despite my comments above, I think the [[Dinosaur]] article is actually quite reasonable (apart from needing more information about the dinosaurs themselves). If you were still around, I'd invite you to point out ''specific'' problems, because all you've done so far is throw mud.
::"''(no scientist uses quotes)''". Incorrect.
::"''...don't say every theory is just a theory...''" I haven't seen anyone do that.
::Much of your comment on science ignores the difference between [[Physical science|operational science and origins science]].
::"''Finally, try to link to non-creationist websites and accredited scientists... ''". What's wrong with linking to creationist web-sites with accredited scientists?
::"''never, ever use the Bible as a reference: if your theories are correct you should be able to find evidence outside of the Bible''". We can't use the Bible as a reference for what Christians believe? And often the best evidence is documented eye-witness testimony, which is what the Bible is, so it is often the only available evidence; why overlook it just because bibliosceptics don't like it?
::[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:34, 16 May 2007 (EDT)