| | And for children, we believe they receive the remission of original sin and the grace of the Holy Spirit upon being baptized, since St. Peter says the promise of the Holy Spirit is for children also. When they come of age, it is obligatory for them to profess faith in Christ, as they do either in Confirmation, the laying on off hands mentioned in Acts, and also annually in renewal of baptismal promises, especially the promise to believe the entire Creed, which professes Jesus as Lord and Savior. Hence, if all these things are only symbols, then Catholics are saved by their faith in Christ. If they are sacraments, visible means of grace, Catholics have access to the fullness of these means of grace. In either case, Catholics are saved. As for Evangelicals, if baptism is only a symbol, their faith in Christ will justify them. If it is a sacrament, the grace will justify them. | | And for children, we believe they receive the remission of original sin and the grace of the Holy Spirit upon being baptized, since St. Peter says the promise of the Holy Spirit is for children also. When they come of age, it is obligatory for them to profess faith in Christ, as they do either in Confirmation, the laying on off hands mentioned in Acts, and also annually in renewal of baptismal promises, especially the promise to believe the entire Creed, which professes Jesus as Lord and Savior. Hence, if all these things are only symbols, then Catholics are saved by their faith in Christ. If they are sacraments, visible means of grace, Catholics have access to the fullness of these means of grace. In either case, Catholics are saved. As for Evangelicals, if baptism is only a symbol, their faith in Christ will justify them. If it is a sacrament, the grace will justify them. |
| − | Catholics believe Evangelicals and other Trinitarian Christians have valid Baptism. JWs and those who don't believe in the Trinity do not have such. Again, a common Trinitarian Faith, and Faith in Christ as God and Savior, can unite Catholics and Evangelicals. Infant Baptism is the Gospel of Grace! Children don't need to do any works! They receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit just as an utterly free gift of of the Holy Trinity in Baptism! {{unsigned}} | + | Catholics believe Evangelicals and other Trinitarian Christians have valid Baptism. JWs and those who don't believe in the Trinity do not have such. Again, a common Trinitarian Faith, and Faith in Christ as God and Savior, can unite Catholics and Evangelicals. Infant Baptism is the Gospel of Grace! Children don't need to do any works! They receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit just as an utterly free gift of of the Holy Trinity in Baptism![[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]] ([[User talk:NishantXavier|talk]]) 14:18, 7 May 2020 (EDT) |
| | :Nobody needs to do any works. ''It is finished''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 14:10, 7 May 2020 (EDT) | | :Nobody needs to do any works. ''It is finished''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 14:10, 7 May 2020 (EDT) |
| − | St. Paul says in 1 Cor 3:13-15 that good works done on the foundation of faith in Christ will have a reward from the Lord on that Day: "13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." How do you interpret this passage, Rob? | + | St. Paul says in 1 Cor 3:13-15 that good works done on the foundation of faith in Christ will have a reward from the Lord on that Day: "13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." How do you interpret this passage, Rob?[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]] ([[User talk:NishantXavier|talk]]) 14:18, 7 May 2020 (EDT) |