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→Is there really a need for rancorous debate on this subject?
:Look at the context. It's a discussion essentially of church work (''I planted, Apollos watered'', etc). Salvation is not dependent upon church work and evangelism.
:Look at the context. It's a discussion essentially of church work (''I planted, Apollos watered'', etc). Salvation is not dependent upon church work and evangelism.
:Also, reiterating what you posted above, '''''Not by works of righteousness which we have done''', but according to his mercy he saved us'' and Heb 4:10, ''whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 14:43, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
:Also, reiterating what you posted above, '''''Not by works of righteousness which we have done''', but according to his mercy he saved us'' and Heb 4:10, ''whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 14:43, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
:As I see it (and I speak as a small "c" catholic, not as an advocate of any denomination of sect) this whole understanding of baptism really focuses on an understanding of Salvation. Some think, as is a predominant view among Roman Catholics, Roman Catholic doctrine, Islam, Mormons and others, that salvation may be inherited after death of the flesh. IMO, these teachings are in error. Salvation is now. ''Today is is the day of salvation''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Live Free or Die]]</sup> 14:55, 7 May 2020 (EDT)